• Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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      5 months ago

      No, because rich assholes who drive these guided missiles would just pay the tax and continue to put us all at risk.

      They should be banned, unless required for work… while at work… with proof that this work requires such a large vehicle to be used.

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      5 months ago

      I have to drive a pickup for work, why should I have a very steep tax for helping to build and fix your housing?

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        5 months ago

        Why should I have to subsidize your oversized work vehicle and the extra wear and tear it causes our infrastructure?

        Drive a van. Drive a truck that is reasonably sized and designed for human work (like are used in many countries around the world). Pickups don’t have to be built on frames sized for semis.

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          5 months ago

          Gas Tax covers the damage.

          And you dont understand the needs of people that do work on housing, you can tow a significant trailer or haul heavy things with a van or small pickup. A half ton pickup is not useful for real work.

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              5 months ago

              If you dont know what you are talking about then dont be a critique. Do some hard work and then you will get it.

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                I do get it. You have no reasonable excuse to drive a multi-ton pickup that’s tall enough that you can’t see people standing in front of it. There are alternatives or it’s not needed as a daily driver. How is it that the rest of the world manages to accomplish the same things with smaller vehicles?

                Keep trying to justify it to yourself or just own the fact that it’s ostentatious and ridiculous.

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                  5 months ago

                  I literally had a smaller vehicle before, and it didnt work. Again, do some real work so you actually understand what is needed and not needed.

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        5 months ago

        IMO, you should be exempt. The vast majority of jobs don’t require a truck, yet the F150 is the most-sold vehicle in the US. So you’re in the minority.

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          5 months ago

          Great, but the question stands, why should I be penelized for needing a vehicle that fixes and builds your housing?

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            5 months ago

            Great question.

            The better pitch is to consider the “tax” like an additional permit with increased costs, including mandatory more expensive insurance. It’s the cost of doing business, wrapped into your overhead. The disparity between the large pickups and the smaller sedans of yesteryear are staggering; imagine if you could buy and operate a semi truck with the same costs and licensing as a sedan. Trailers parked in front of your house completely obscuring the street, or taking up extra spots at the grocery store. People who don’t know the size of their vehicle knocking over signs and mailboxes. More roadkill, dead pets, and pedestrian fatalities because there are so many blind spots for such a big truck.

            Obviously, pickups and semis are still quite different in size, but the point is that pickups and large SUVs are now so much bigger than sedans–bigger than what we built our streets and bridges for–that they present additional danger.

            • Larger vehicles cause more wear and tear on the road just by driving on them
            • collisions and accidents are more destructive and fatal due to the more deadly shape and weight
            • blind spots are bigger, making the vehicle more dangerous for anyone outside of it
            • effects of distracted driving are compounded
            • irresponsible drivers get to drive these larger vehicles without any additional barrier to entry

            In short: these machines can be used to perform specific tasks, but they are not the same size, shape, or weight of our lived environment. Additional regulation is needed to offset the real effects on people and infrastructure (e.g., more difficult licensing, higher registration fees, higher tolls, etc.).

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              5 months ago

              Everything you mention should be accounted for by higher insurance and the gas tax.

              I think what we are running into is the conflict between freedom vs safety. I think it will get more apparent as people are not able to afford things that we have reached the point where we have too much regulation and things will get too expensive for people to afford.

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            I don’t know what they do where you live, but here we have license plates for work vehicles and personal vehicles. Work vehicles are subject to different tax and rules. This tax would apply to personal vehicles, ideally, as those are the problem.

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    “The problem is that thousands of miles of guardrails installed alongside American highways were designed decades ago”

    Ah, yes, that is the problem. Cars becoming heavier with little to no added value are not the problem, its the guardrails and not enough tax dollars being spent.

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    Jesus Christ! Reminds me of those videos where bunker busters smoothly glide through thick concrete walls.

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