• Rusticus@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Meanwhile, God is good with the US setting yet another firearm mass murder yearly record because for sure God is a second amendment advocate.

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    Okay, let’s see “God” come on down and do that. Until then I’m gonna continue being “depraved” fucking nut jobs.

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    11 months ago

    Seriously, who can possibly be so invested in the personal lives and relationships of others?

    I genuinely don’t understand how you can waste your time with that amount of hate.

    It’s extremism, plain and simple. Live the life you want and let others live theirs.

    Be kind. Support one another despite any differences we may have. Seriously, WTF?

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    11 months ago

    God should’ve made them not LGBTQ+ then Mike. Seems like Johnson’s argument is with God. Good luck with her.

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    You know what really pisses me off? When they say shit like “identifying” as lgbtq which sounds very close to “it’s a choice to be gay”.

    If the above two statements are true (which they are not in context to this post) then being a straight white male is also a choice! There’s no double standard here!

    Which logically, if it’s a choice either way then these straight white men are just as gay as everyone else, they’re just choosing to be straight!

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        It’s not so much race itself as it’s the privilege. Outside of literal royalty, there’s nobody more privileged than a rich and powerful conservative Christian cishet white man with good healthcare for free in the US.

        The color of his skin doesn’t inherently make the Jericho Johnson a worse person, but it without question makes him more privileged, which makes him more of a hypocrite when he tries to play the victim.

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          But that’s at least partially my point. That’s discrimination, not all white people, not all straight people, not all men, are privileged and if you think that you’re reinforcing the same discrimation you’re supposedly against. Sure, there might be, proportionally, because of historical reasons/historical discrimination, more “straight white men” who are more privileged than most, but that’s more about politics and thinking that way you are already discriminating against people just for being born the skin color they’re born with, the sexuality and gender they’re born with which we all know we have no control over. And that’s fucked up.

          If you really think there are no white or straight people or men that don’t have the same privileges as some piece of shit like this guy or even a bunch of minority people I really cannot trust you’re arguing in good faith. Class etc, privilege isn’t all about the color of your skin or sexuality. Things are more subjective and inidividual than that.

          I agree it makes this turd of a human being more of a hypocrite and I don’t disagree with the comment I replied to entirely. I just don’t see why there is a need to discriminate against an entire group of people just for the way they’re born. I thought fighting against that very notion was the exact point.

          e: Maybe I’m misunderstanding your point and possibly not explaining my point well (I am veeery tired), but anyway. Just because Mike Johnson is an asshole doesn’t mean people should paint an entire gender or race or anything as assholes is my point. I get that the OC is somewhat sarcastic, but still.

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            not all white people, not all straight people, not all men, are privileged

            Maybe not compared to people who are all of those things plus rich and powerful, but compared to people who are none of those things? Yes, we fucking are!

            You’re pretending that privilege is a binary where either you’re super privileged or you’re not privileged at all. That’s not how it works.

            I’m a cishet white guy from a country with a high standard of living. That makes me privileged. Someone being those things and also rich and healthy would make them more privileged than me, but it doesn’t erase my privilege.

            Aknowledging privilege, whether your own or that of someone else, isn’t discrimination, it’s honesty and awareness. Conversely, NOT acknowledging privilege except for extreme cases makes you blind to the realities of privilege, which may in turn lead to ACTUAL discrimination, whether conscious or unknowing l, when dealing with any situation where privilege plays a part l.

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              I’m not pretending anything and you’re putting words in my mouth I never said or intentionally misenterpreting my words and I’m done with this bad faith argument of yours.

              I’m not Mike Johnson and acknowledging discrimination doesn’t make me privileged. You can discriminate all you want it doesn’t make it any less discrimination. Nor does it make discrimination against someone even if they might be privileged any less discrimination.

              If you really think someone who just happens to have been born those things and gets the worst treatment than someone who, say is, POC and/or LGBTQ, who is better off than someone who is homeless for example you’re delusional and extremely discriminative. It largely concerns all of those things, but it’s not as bipolar as american identity politics makes it up to be, it’s more about class politics and politics essentially and way more subjective and individual than you’re making it out to be - which is exactly my point, not a single one of any gender, sexuality, class, anything is a fucking monolith you should discriminate against as one. But you’re free to downvote instead of discussing.

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                It largely concerns all of those things, but it’s not as bipolar as american identity politics makes it up to be

                Then why are you continuing to argue that it IS bipolar? Why do you insist that white people aren’t privileged, even as you acknowledge that there are different levels of privilege and belonging to one privileged class doesn’t mean that you belong to them all and thus have ALL the privilege? It’s like you’re ALMOST getting it but then you refuse to take that last step because that would be admitting that you were wrong.

                Fact: being white makes us privileged

                Fact: that doesn’t mean that we necessarily abuse said privilege and as such, being white doesn’t in itself make us bad people

                Fact: neither of the above statements of fact are in any way discriminatory and if you STILL don’t understand that, there’s no doubt left that you’re incapable of understanding either through stubbornness or reflexive defensiveness against an imagined accusation that nobody is making.

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    “God is mocked openly in the public square”

    Lucky one. Other gods are forgotten.

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            No question. And we are doing that. But it’s an uphill battle. Doesn’t help that she’s half-Jewish, I’m Jewish and my wife, daughter and I are all atheists. We are threatened so many ways from the Mike Johnsons of this country gaining power.

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              Your daughter is fortunate to have you. While it shouldn’t be the case, there are a whole lot of parents who wouldn’t support their kids if they were LGBT.

              As much as we like to criticize the US, Americans generally will not stand for the mistreatment of our fellow Americans. Throughout history, the government and some other Americans have tried to go so, and every time, Americans standing in solidarity with each other have won out.

              So, if Republicans dare to try anything, give a holler, and we’ll remind Johnston and his ilk that “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED” applies to more than just guns, and we will make sure they’re intimately aware of that.

              Seriously though, don’t hesitate to call out for help here. If things get that bad, I think several people here will have your back.

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        EU countries are very difficult to migrate to. Their standards for residency are just not possible for most of us. I’ve desperately wanted to become an EU resident/citizen for the last 30 years, but simply do not meet the criteria for any of the countries.

        But thank you very much for the welcoming invitation.

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    11 months ago

    If all Americans went out and voted in their congressional elections, you guys wouldn’t be in this mess. I worry that the US will fall into fascism not because of Christian nationalists, but because of excessive political apathy.

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      If all Americans went out and voted in their congressional elections

      Ever hear of gerrymandering?

      While you’re at it, try counting the polling places per capita in blue neighborhoods versus red ones.

      When you’re done with that, check how many polling places per capita colleges have, how many college students have to travel several states on a Tuesday in order to vote.

      Then check how many voters are struck from the rolls using flimsy excuses.

      Lastly, check how difficult it is for the working poor to get enough time off work, childcare etc.

      If all Americans COULD vote, everything would be a lot better, but victim blaming without doing a goddamn thing about voting rights like neoliberals are doing isn’t helping.