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    Chicago police said they were not notified of the alleged incident.

    Sounds like neither ICE nor the people trusted the police to be on their side.

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      Whenever its authorities doing wrongdoing its “alleged”. When its anyone else they call them “perpetrators”, or “Wanted for X”. Our law enforcement badly needs adult supervision and they havent gotten it. Ever.

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    They updated it, it was USSS, but still a good call. Police should not be in schools unless there’s a specific incident happening.

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    Just fucking imagine how that would go! I work in education and simply having a unfamiliar police officer in the school causes stress in the kids. Now you want to come inside and remove students. Bro this will end violently if it happens. Caring staff and students are not going to hand over a crying and confused child.

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      Oh holy shit man. That’s a movie. Depressed suicidal teenager one day decides to go into his high school to shoot up the place and kill everyone… But things take a twist when an evil government agency assaults the school. Now this would-be school shooter realizes his purpose. He wasn’t put here to murder his classmates. He was put here to protect them. Queue the John Wick music.

      But seriously you could actually make this a really good movie about the struggles that modern teenagers face and how when it comes down to it we’re all in it together more than where apart. Sometimes it just takes an unusual situation to find that out.

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        Wow, I kinda love that idea! That twist sounds amazing. I’m sure it would draw an insane amount of controversy, but fuck, we as a nation need to discuss this obvious mental health problem. If “no press is bad press” for the oligarchy scum that rule our lives, then the same should go for this.

        I’m not sure how well it would be received if we’re expected to cheer for the would-be mass murderer, but anything is better than the flaccid “thoughts and prayers” bullshit that our politicians flood the conversation with every time, while sweeping it under the rug.

        If only a movie producer was brave enough to take this on…

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          Yeah, I think it would also be controversial. Although maybe that’s what we need since apparently kids actually getting shot up in school by fellow classmates isn’t controversial anymore.

          Besides all publicity is good publicity. More outrage will eventually lead to more attention and if the film is good people will like it.

          And the fun part is doesn’t have to be a film made in the US there are a lot of filmmakers worldwide that would probably entertain this idea. I seriously think I’m going to get started on draft…

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    I have very little faith in people; at some point some red-hat is going to tell their kid they should let ICE in at school. Kid will get praised by right-wing media but be confused when half their friends are gone.

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      Then red hat indoctrinated kid gets told that s/he’s the victim of liberal hate and smears, the right thing to do was to let the authoritarians in.

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    Who the fuck are they going to deport from there? Teachers are all probably legal or have visas, and kids that young won’t have government id’s on them…

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      If they nab children of immigrants, their parents will have to show up to get them. Then they can boot the whole family out of the country. Disgusting? Yes.

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      and kids that young won’t have government id’s on them…

      They are fine with deporting kids who are citizens. Trump doesn’t even want them to be citizens if their parents aren’t despite being born here.

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        That makes absolutely no sense. Even if a kid made a threat against someone protected by SS, they would use local Leo or the FBI to find and detain the kid, and the school wouldnt prevent it.

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          I don’t find it hard to believe that Trump would sic the secret service on some kid. He’s going to be using federal law enforcement to punish anyone he sees as critical of him, at least for the next four years. And not just immigrants, but anybody he and his followers see as undesirables.

          Of course, there’s also the chance the SS were there for counterfeiting. It would not be the first time they showed up at a school because some kid was printing money. Vince Vantage put out a video on that.

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        Proof of that would’ve given them jurisdiction. Meaning they couldn’t legally be prevented entry. I don’t buy it.

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    Chicago Public Schools officials claim U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents were denied entry to a South Side elementary school Friday morning.

    [Ital. added]

    Meanwhile, the most inane and unbelievable shit dribbles out of Trump administration officials mouths and journalists will be all “an official familiar with the matter confirmed to ABC” without the hint of a doubt

    e; This article has been updated with the feds’ new story, and the new headline is a great example of exactly what I was talking about

    US Secret Service approached South Side school, not ICE agents: officials

    You could say that’s what these “officials” claimed, but ABC sure won’t.

    At any rate, a couple of questions,

    Why were the local cops totally in the dark on this? If the secret service was investigating a death threat, what was the plan if their suspect wasn’t at home or at school? Just hang around Chicago until you spot them? And if you’re confronting a potentially dangerous person at a school, wouldn’t you really want to have a whole coordinated police action instead of just having one agent waltz in on their own?

    Did this agent identify themselves as secret service and tell the school why they were there? Because they should have but I don’t understand how the school would have thought they were ICE if they did, and I don’t believe this school would throw a press conference to lie about this when they had to know the federal government would respond to their press conference.

    Lastly, if ICE and the secret service were just lying through their teeth to ABC, how would we know? Alternatively, if they were telling the truth, how could we know? Because absent some kind of external proof statements from the Trump administration have zero informational value.

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      Are they claiming they sent the Secret Service because some 5-11 year old kid made a threat against the president? That’s completely unbelievable.

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      Why exactly would the school officials lie? They aren’t even in the Trump administration.

      Edit: Never mind, I misunderstood the post. Sorry.

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        No worries at all! Text communication is tricky at the best of times and I have absolutely no discipline when I write and have like fifteen thoughts per sentence, with at least four being hyperbole, two that are sarcastic, and one that’s a reference to a random playstation game I rented from blockbuster but forgot the name of, so, yeah, misunderstandings happen.

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    This was not an incident involving ICE if anyone here would bother to read beyond the headline

    CHICAGO (WLS) – The U.S. Secret Service told the I-Team they approached a South Side school Friday. Chicago Public Schools officials had initially said the agent or agents were from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    Secret Service said they were investigating a threat, and responded to a house. They said they were then told the person they wanted to talk to was at Hamline Elementary School, but they did not enter the school, the Secret Service told the I-Team.

    The threat the Secret Service was investigating was not immediately clear.

    CPS officials had claimed an ICE agent or agents were denied entry to the South Side elementary school Friday morning.

    ICE said this was not a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement encounter.

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        Ok go that route I guess.

        We can either choose to make up crazy shit to get upset about and believe a headline that has already been corrected or be logical people looking for the real problems to direct our energy towards.

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            You ever think that, with the current climate, they overreacted before having all of the information? Why are you choosing to not apply basic reasoning to the situation?

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              If they overreacted, why haven’t they said so? Why are they maintaining what you claim is a lie? Because my “basic reasoning” is that there is zero advantage to them lying about this. Please explain why.

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                You’re going to look silly when this ends up being the nothing burger it is. Outrage becomes worthless if you don’t choose to apply it properly.