Almost like news written in english tends to focus on english-speaking countries and their allies
The obvious context of this meme is articles that express the “consensus opinion of the international community” on some foreign issue. Like “international community condemns antisemetic criticism of Israel.” Or “international community condemns Niger coup, calls for original government to be reinstated so France can keep buying cheap Uranium from the second poorest country on the planet.”
oh yeah that must be it.
“US liberals would be far right anywhere else in the world!”
The world:
They absolutely would not be far right in Japan and a few more on this map, but they would be right to far right in a lot of countries not on the map too.
I’m mostly poking fun. Some people will say rest of the world and really just mean Western Europe. You’re mostly right though. I think economically, yes, definitely right or at least right of center. Socially though, very left. LGBT rights and civil equality and refugee acceptance are sadly not the norm. We’ve still got serious conservative parties pushing against them.
It’s honestly a hard thing to distill down to one metric. And if you want to consider the cultural context too, it gets even more difficult. People like using the whole world in comparisons, but it’s rather complex to accurately do that here.
You never hear about China or Russia?
I like to call this “The Commonwealth and Friends”
New Zealand is happy to be included
Basically democracies. It is kind of difficult to consider non-democratic dictators like Putin or Kim Jong-un as representatives of some kind of “community”.
You know the vast majority of south and central americas are democracies too, right?
Also a not-insignificant amount of Asia, Africa, and Pacific islands.
I said this about Assad as well, but when someone is a forever ruler, it may not be as democratic as the name implies
South America just isn’t really too involved in international politics in general, the whole region is neutral in almost all conflicts since very few directly affect them
They are involved in their own politics, just like the first world only cares about what happens to the first world.
Of course. I am not going to defend the particular choice of countries in that picture. Where is South Korea, for example? However. Democracy is greater than just democratic election. Fascists in Germany also come to power in a free democratic election, does not make Nazi Germany a democratic country.
What an odd coincidence that primarily white, English-speaking countries have democracy.
Nothing odd about it. There are historical reasons for that. But English speaking? You do know that there are many countries in EU?
I think you missed my sarcasm. Also, I said “primarily”.
Even as primarily, this is false statement. And even there, there are historical reasons.
You are so stuck on details you entirely missed my point. Are you just going to ignore the fact that the “world” depicted here is literally just Europe and its most successful colonies?
Yeah colonialism is a “historical reason”, but wtf are you even saying there? Being killed is “a reason” to be lying on the stairs, but explaining that by saying “he has his reasons” is so out-of-touch as to be insane.
I think you missed my sarcasm.
/s is your friend.
Just so we’re clear, you can think of two missing countries?
Imma be real with you chief none of these are democracy
yeah,
these are the democracies that invaded Iraq/Libya to install a democracy.
I keep having to remind myself how much good it did to the people of Iraq/Libya.
Congrats to Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Czechia, and Slovakia for making the cut
no dictators, no worries.
“no dictators”
America is a dictatorship of money disguised as a democracy, and the others are vassal states in lockstep with American foreign policy. Most of them have colonized and exploited the rest of the world for centuries and they’re still doing it now, to the tune of over $10 trillion a year in net extraction from the global south.
Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095937802200005X
Our results show that in 2015 the North net appropriated from the South 12 billion tons of embodied raw material equivalents, 822 million hectares of embodied land, 21 exajoules of embodied energy, and 188 million person-years of embodied labour, worth $10.8 trillion in Northern prices – enough to end extreme poverty 70 times over. Over the whole period, drain from the South totalled $242 trillion (constant 2010 USD). This drain represents a significant windfall for the global North, equivalent to a quarter of Northern GDP. For comparison, we also report drain in global average prices. Using this method, we find that the South’s losses due to unequal exchange outstrip their total aid receipts over the period by a factor of 30. Our analysis confirms that unequal exchange is a significant driver of global inequality, uneven development, and ecological breakdown.
yeah,
these are the democracies that invaded Iraq/Libya to install a democracy.
I keep having to remind myself how much good it did to the people of Iraq/Libya.
Yeah, Iraqis miss saddam so much don’t they? Especially the Kurds.
I’m sure they don’t miss the Americans.
and we all remember what a paradise those countries were. man, that time gadaffis son killed a waiter because he spilled soup. you miss him?
Libya now has open-air slave markets and has been described as a humanitarian disaster.
remember the black dude who gets shot for talking back in America ? anecdotes don’t prove a general point.
btw Libya was doing better under Gaddafi
country did better before war than after.
amazing
!mapsWithNZ
Idk, I feel like Al Jazeera gets quite a bit of visibility and has a good amount of credibility, but Qatar isn’t on this map.
Credibility? It’s Qatari state media
It is, so you definitely want to keep that in mind when consuming their content. On the flipside, they have access to sources in the Middle East that your big mainstream western media organizations can only dream about, so you don’t want to ignore them entirely either. There are ways to be smart about it.
I don’t know about US but EU has a bunch of news agencies that are fairly credible. Some local smaller ones don’t have a reason not to be.
The international community in the picture is all that matters. Change the size of the countries in the map by the size of their economies and that’s all that matters. Change it by the factor of their diplomatic influence and the change would be even greater.
What a tone deaf world view.
If you ever talk about an international community, these are the only countries that actually COMMUNE. Almost all the rest are too involved with themselves to have a diplomatic strategy beyond their narrow short-term self interest. That’s also why that’s the only international community that matters. That’s not a tone deaf world view, that’s the reality.
No, these are the only countries that destabilised entire continents to get what they wanted in the last few centuries and now they wash their hands off of them. The countries that are left behind are still trying to clean the shit up the West has created.
So organizations like the Arab League don’t exist?
They exist, many organizations exist, but they are only a collection of countries each looking for its own short sighted benefits.
Oh yeah, the U.S., UK, etc. never do that.
Sure they do, but I’m not into nitpicking specific situations or argue about edge cases.
They don’t really like each other, mostly they see themselves as competitors and their treaties are situational, worth nothing except in the best of times when everything is going well for everyone.
Edge cases? Are you serious? Since when does the U.S. give a shit about anyone but the U.S.?
And saying that the U.S. respects its treaties shows a laughable ignorance of history.
What do you think “international” means?
