• shalafi@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Liberals: The Christo-fascists are violently taking over!

    Also liberals: Give up your guns!

    This liberal: Uh, no? I’ll keep my arms thank you very much.

  • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    “So we’re going to take up violent action then, right?”

    “Oh, God, no, we’re just going to sit here and sneer at those who are trying to change the system without violence, or without enough violence.”

    • underisk@lemmy.ml
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      The problem with violent action is that, to have a chance to succeed, you need a critical mass of support. Not like 50% or anything, but enough that you can’t be easily quelled. The only way you build that support is by suggesting violent resistance to people who scoff at you and accuse you of being unserious until the last straw finally breaks their back and you don’t sound so ridiculous anymore.

    • saltesc@lemmy.world
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      7 hours ago

      Violence is a top-tier solution for lower ranked cognition, where the notion of “hit thing” is a quality solution toward the final stages of attempted problem-solving. Fortunately, people in this situation tend to share the side effect of apathy, so managing to pull together enough “hit thing” people into an organised cohort rarely occurs, or fizzles shortly after take off.

      • Shard@lemmy.world
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        5 hours ago

        Wrong.

        Violence is the supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived.

        When all else fails violence is the final answer.

        What do you do when someone is violently trying to knock down your door?

        You call the police and they come and they ask the person to leave nicely.

        He refuses and gets more aggressive, either they restraint him and drag him away or use some other method that involves violence.

        I challenge you to show a real world example of ending oppression that was achieved by asking nicely when one side refuses to come to the negotiating table.

      • shalafi@lemmy.world
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        6 hours ago

        “Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.”

        OTOH, here we are.

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    12 hours ago

    “Choose peace rather than confrontation. Except in cases where we cannot get, where we cannot proceed, or we cannot move forward. Then if the only alternative is violence, we will use violence.”

    —Nelson Mandela, Gaza (1999)

    “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”

    —John F. Kennedy, Address on the First Anniversary of the Alliance for Progress (1962)

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      54 minutes ago

      I also like:

      “Between two groups of people who want to make inconsistent kinds of worlds, I see no remedy but force.”

      — Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.

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    10 hours ago

    Any time violence is used, one fantasizes they are on the winning side