• DreamerofDays@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    It’s starting to feel like “capitalism” is for the left what “communism” is for the right.

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      9 months ago

      A predominantly investor-directed market economy predicated on private ownership of the means of production. Is that specific enough for you to permit me to use the term ‘capitalism’?

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        9 months ago

        You don’t need my permission nor my approval; my agreeance even less so.

        If I’m mistaking you, and you actually are attempting to engage me here, please forgive me my brusqueness— I’ve seen enough of people snapping back and forth at each other these days and am, no doubt, the nastier for it. It was not my intention in my previous comment for it to be a personal sleight against you, nor to have you stand a strawman for an ideology.

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      9 months ago

      If that’s your takeaway, then you need to listen to more leftists and rightists. Rightists fundamentally have no fucking clue what Communism means, that’s where the whole “read theory” meme comes from. Leftists do understand Capitalism, and make genuine analytical claims against it.

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        9 months ago

        It’s a shibboleth for either side, where the expression of distaste or hatred for the concept, or the quick association of evils with it marks you a member of the tribe.

        Some Leftists understand Capitalism. Some Rightists understand Communism. Larger swaths than they wield the words about.

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          9 months ago

          Nah, that’s just Enlightened Centrism nonsense. We are born into Capitalism, not Socialism nor Communism. I’m correct, leftists must first understand Capitalism to criticize it, while rightists just have to defend the status quo.

          You can watch this in the real world, if you ask a right winger about Socialist concepts without calling them Socialist, most agree until you call them Socialist.