“There is no active threat to the community, Columbus police said”
You killed the community member in question of harm, surely that would mean the community has a threat.
There is no active threat to the community
Except from the COPS WHO KEEP FUCKING SHOOTING EVERYONE YOU STUPID CUNTS
Don’t they have laws to protect the population from free walking murder suspects?
Sorry for who has to live there.
laws don’t protect people.
of course not, thats true.
but i think laws should have some “binding” effect on how police acts on suspects of murder like separating the suspects from their comrades to disenabling them from making up cover stories until beeing presented to a court or such? also disenabling them from:
- walking free and killing a next victim (maybe accidental witnesses they want to get rid of for undenyable cover stories)
- destroying evidences as they seem fit
- vanishing forever as they like
- creating false evidences
All this is not regulated to at least some degree in laws to be followed strictly by police officers? i am not talking about laws preventing actions of one person or two, but laws binding police in general on how to handle these suspects depending on the crime suspected and that there seems to be no doubt who was on-scene when that happened.
The officer involved in the shooting has been placed on administrative leave, state police said.
They need to start keeping then in jail cells like they do with everyone else whi commits a homicide
Jail cell for thee, paid vacation for me 🐷
That would have to be negotiated in the Police Union contracts. Same reason they can’t fire pedo teachers immediately, they are contractually obligated to keep paying them until they are investigated or found guilty.
Most of these cops “retire” to end the internal investigation and keep their benefits, then decide to “unretire”, and get hired in the next town with a clean record.
The police have one of the strongest unions in America, and almost no one bats an eye. But let Starbucks employees try to unionize and you’ll hear how greedy and corrupt unions are.
Fuck that. State or federal police should be arresting them that day. The local cops bargaining only matters because we allow it.
Most of these cops “retire” to end the internal investigation and keep their benefits, then decide to “unretire”, and get hired in the next town with a clean record.
This is honestly the only real problem imo. I get sometimes it’s a pretty obvious case, but we do still have due process and they deserve their time in court, no matter how shit they are.
If they couldn’t investigate themselves and the investigations didn’t just end when they quit, we’d be in a much better place.
I’m gonna go with: don’t send cops on welfare checks. Send somebody competent to respond to mental health challenges, preferably someone not wearing a police uniform (after all, at this point a lot of folks think “unaccountable killer” when they see that uniform and there’s honestly reason for that).
Calling the police for a wellness check is just legalized swatting…
Calling cops for welfare check is like using chainsaw to cut a pie
Send somebody competent - are you sure there are enough competent people willing to this without protection?
In my experience, social worker programs are only understaffed because they are severely underfunded.
And we cycle back to “defund the police” being a bad slogan when we want to direct some of that law enforcement funding to support personal welfare
Maybe they should have borrowed corporate lingo to call for right-sizing police, or restructure community resources.
“Defund the police” is such obviously bad marketing that it makes you wonder if the people who coined the phrase were trying to help or hinder reform efforts.
I’ll say it again and again, before you call the cops for anything, you need to remember what you’re actually doing. You are willingly inviting an armed person, who will not lose a fight or back down, who is shielded from legal consequences, into your situation.
Grandpa isn’t answering his phone or the door and you’re worried? Call a locksmith, not the cops. Cops will just kick the door or call the locksmith anyway, now you have extra problems
That’s what defund the police is about. It’s about shifting the funding to other sources, social workers and such, that can handle calls like these. It relieves police of having to deal with stuff like this, too.
Defund was a horrible fucking name for the movement though. We’d need the conservatives to be on board and they’re not going for that shit cause they’ll stop listening as soon as they think you’re taking power away from their tastiest boots.
Democrats fucking SUCK ASS at slogans… So many good ideas ruined by inept marketing.
Or shunting off good candidates. Bernie has been talking truth for fucking 50 years but no nomination. There’s no central talking head, no real stated goal…
I vote blue but fuck me they suck at rallying voters to a cause
True, but not so much in this case. It was BLM, not the Democrats, and most Democrats rejected it. Biden even increased police funding in response.
I think most of this was because of the successful propaganda campaign that made every BLM protest sound like a riot when it was some tiny percentage in truth
Even I agree with that. And I was one of those annoying guys screaming ACAB and shit. I really wish that didn’t end up becoming the main slogan, because I really agree with the idea behind it. It’s like if pro-choice people were framing their own position as pro-killing babies on their signs and stuff.
Honestly ACAB is another badly defined slogan.
The idea was that if only 10% of cops are actually “bad” and will hurt you, if the other 90% aren’t reporting them and holding them accountable, you cant trust that ANY cop is part of that 90% because choosing wrong can end your life.
But then again you can’t explain all of that in one word lol
That’s not entirely true. Police departments demand conformity, following orders, and keeping a code of silence. Officers who tried to speak out about it in the past have been killed. While that’s the extreme end of things, it doesn’t take long to realize that being a good person and being a cop are mutually exclusive. Some departments make sure you receive morally dubious assignments during your year long probation. Assignments like arresting homeless people and destroying all of their possessions. Can you destroy someone’s life like that? If not then they flush you out and complain about an officer shortage for more money. That’s what ACAB is about. The guys who stood there and watched George Floyd get murdered are only the tip of the problem. The underwater iceberg is absolute lack of morality they show when interacting with the public.
Optics and phrasing matter. For as much criticism as Democrats get about being inept at it, ACAB and Defund show that the critics aren’t a whole lot better.
Arguably, the way people perceive your project is more important than what it actually does. Probably a combination of both dems being shit at optics and repugs having the most well oiled propaganda machine in the world, cause it keeps fucking happening.
Planned parenthood
BLM
ACAB
defund the police
Communist/socialist policies
The left in general just seems terrible at this. I suspect it’s because we hold ourselves to morals.
I will say that Buttagieg had the perfect rebuttal to being called socialist – “they’re going to call us socialist anyway, that shouldn’t stop us from making socialist policies”, paraphrasing.
So… did the cops ignore the word ‘self,’ did they don’t know what the word ‘self’ means, or did they just want to go a-huntin’?
Because I’m guessing it’s #3.
Not the first time police stops a self harm with a murder. It’s actually a trend.
Welfare … Warfare what’s the difference
About 3 shades of brown
Mentally ill get shot regardless of race, just like trans
“There is no active threat to the community, Columbus police said.”
False.
As an Ohioan this is a weird way to find out there’s a Columbus Nebraska
Can’t self harm if you’re already dead
Dear police: you cannot check the welfare of someone by shooting them with your gun. Thanks, ACAB.
Reminds me of that joke about the hunters in the woods.
“911, what’s your emergency?”
Help, my friend got bit by a snake and I think he’s dead!
“Keep calm, and make sure if he’s actually dead.”
BLAM
Okay, he’s definitely dead
Actually you can… It’s just that the welfare check will result with “dead”.
Schrodinger could have shot the box a bunch & figured out the cat’s welfare…
Capital punishment as social welfare.
They need to send qualified people. Cops are so trigger happy and everyone knows it. At this point the easiest way to commit suicide is to call the cops on yourself, wait for them to arrive, take a $15 airsoft pistol out the door with you, turn so they can see it, wait for them to draw their guns, then level the airsoft pistol as quickly as you can at one of the cops and then boom! I imagine it’s not super popular because cops aren’t the best shot, and you might not die.
For some reason the police just love to murder suicidal people. I think that the brain of a conservative short circuits at the thought of it, then the monkey rage comes out.
I don’t understand the relationship between suicide and conservatives. Can you explain?
Assuming that your question was genuine (the downvoters probably assume you’re a troll), I am just philosophizing. A lot of conservatives have a complete lack of empathy for other people and will often become angry at seeing people who present as “weak”. It’s the way that bullies work–they look for the vulnerable people and target in on them for harassment. I am convinced that conservatives can’t handle the concept of suicide. They have spent their lives not really introspecting and so never have the capacity to feel that way. I feel that they react emotionally and violently to the thought, which is what leads to so many police officers simply shooting and killing people who wanted to commit suicide.
Google it, you’ll find 5-10 or so articles about this EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
FEBRUARY 8, 2024 (Columbus, Nebraska) — The Nebraska State Patrol is able to provide additional details on the Columbus Police Department officer-involved shooting that occurred Tuesday afternoon.
At approximately 1:00 p.m. Tuesday, February 6, Columbus police officers were conducting a welfare check following a report of potential self-harm at a residence in the 3600 block of 39th Avenue in Columbus. Officers contacted the subject, a 17-year-old male, inside the residence. The subject was in possession of a knife.
During the encounter, a Columbus police officer discharged their duty weapon, striking the subject. Another officer deployed a taser during the incident. The subject succumbed to injuries and was pronounced deceased at the scene.
The subject has been identified as Chase Ditter, 17, of Columbus.
The Columbus Police Department has requested the Nebraska State Patrol to investigate the incident. The NSP Special Investigations Team is conducting the in-custody death investigation.
The Columbus Police Department has placed both officers involved in the incident on administrative leave. The NSP investigation remains ongoing.
I know it’s just standard boilerplate language for describing what happened in the most neutral tone possible, but
During the encounter, a Columbus police officer discharged their duty weapon, striking the subject. Another officer deployed a taser during the incident.
feels gross to read. I know that “motherfucker shot the kid, and the other motherfucker tased him” isn’t exactly neutral, but I think it expresses what happened more honestly.
Wait, does that mean one cop shot him and then another cop tasered him after he was shot?
Jesus Christ, cops are fucking stupid.
Yes, for the crime of threatening to cut yourself with a knife in your own home. This is actually one of the favorite hobbies of cops, along with shooting deaf people in the back for not responding.
Oh boy, this post ain’t gonna be popular. Humor me and read it all.
First off, there’s no meat on the bone here. Police called on a young man threatening self-harm, young man killed. Nothing to see here ATM.
Did the kid have a gun? Did he threaten the cops? WTF happened?! Nothing in this story addresses the simplest questions. Hell, it didn’t ask questions, let alone get answers. FFS, this is Journalism 101. (I literally took that class, and more.)
Here’s the question we should all be asking: Why are police the default mental health responders in America? We can all give a dozen reasons why that’s bullshit, but that’s not interesting. How do we actually make change? Read on.
“Defund the police” is the dumbest political slogan I’ve ever heard. Jesus. I know what’s meant. You know what’s meant. Worst. Marketing. Ever.
Had an opinion changing YouTube binge last night. Watched a dozen sov cits getting their asses handed to them in court. That evolved into watching cops bust idiots running around impersonating police officers.
In both cases I was stunned at the calm and measured responses from the judges and cops involved. Over and over and over again. The patience on display was stunning. Me? LOL, I’d throw these asses in jail or beat them down with a billy club. Been on the receiving end of bad judges and cops. As bad as you think it is now, didn’t used to be like that!
And why is it so much better today? We got public CAMERAS. I can usually argue both sides of an argument, if you can’t, you don’t understand the argument. I got nothing arguing cops shouldn’t be wearing body cams.
Of course you don’t release the footage immediately to the public! Of course you don’t live stream that shit! And yes, there’s a technical\budgetary cost well above buying a fat HDD.
Still, recording is plenty doable. And we can work out sane ways for those recordings to go public.
Go to your local sheriff’s FB page and ask why they’re not using body cams. Demand answers. LOL, I got no answers from mine. But press them anyway and do not stop!
First of all, it’s an active investigation involving a minor. It’s likely that information won’t be provided even if you ask.
Secondly, for someone who took journalism, you don’t seem to understand something called research. If you did any sort of research, you would understand that defund the police was a reallocation of funds away from the police to things like mental health professionals instead of decommissioned M16s.
You should stop watching YouTube for your
propagandacontent. There are other countries in this world that do use police for wellness checks but the USA is the number one for killings during those checks.They were saying they understood and agreed with the tenets of “defund the police” but thought that phrase was terrible marketing. It’s an easy target for the opposition to sway anyone in the middle, because it sounds like getting rid of police entirely.
Some of the proposals made were to get rid of police entirely and instead create an entirely new organization.
Gotta source for that
That’s not a source. I’m not doing your homework.