• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    when the largest swing state this election has an economy that leans heavily on fracking?

    You’re confusing people and corporations…

    Pennsylvania voters continue to be split over fracking. A poll out this week, which surveyed 700 likely voters in September, shows 58% support a ban on fracking while 42% oppose it.

    https://www.wvia.org/news/pennsylvania-news/2024-10-10/pa-voters-split-on-fracking-but-show-widespread-support-for-stronger-regulations

    58% of likely voters in PA want it banned…

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      22 days ago

      58% of likely voters in PA want it banned…

      Did the environmentalists show up for Gore? No they did not.

      Did the environmentalists show up for Clinton who said she’d have a map room to fight climate change? No they did not.

      Were the environmentalists going to show up for Biden after he passed green energy and ev policies? Polls said no they were not going to show up.

      Harris saying she’d ban fracking is an instant loss. She and everyone advising her knows this.

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        22 days ago

        Yep. When Democrats enact environmental policies, they don’t do it for the votes. Which makes Biden all the more commendable for his environmental action imo.

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      When people are employed by those corporations, they have a vested interest in their livelihood not disappearing overnight.

      A survey of 700 people leaves considerable room for polling error. Without information on how they selected participants, I wouldn’t say that’s an overwhelming margin.

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        22 days ago

        When people are employed by those corporations,

        The report finds that about 64,000 Pennsylvania workers are employed in fossil fuel-based industries such as natural gas drilling, coal mining, and supporting activities

        https://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania/2021/01/29/report-pennsylvania-stands-to-gain-243000-jobs-a-year-from-clean-energy-investment/

        64k, not just fracking, that’s all fossil fuel jobs in PA.

        There’s 12.7 million people in the state

        0.5% of people in the state work any job connected to fossil fuels…

        You’re confusing corporations and people homie.

        A survey of 700 people leaves considerable room for polling error

        You didn’t have to tell us you never learned about stats in any educational setting, but I appreciate the transparency.

        700 is more than enough

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          700 people is a good sample size if they are a truly random representative sample of your population. In real life, polling error tends to vary far more than 1/sqrt(n) because of systemic biases in how you select participants. Depending on how the survey was conducted, it could intrinsically favor certain demographics.