• dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      7 months ago

      The irony of “all billionaires bad” is that Taylor Swift earned that money through album sales and live touring. She wasn’t actively exploiting the labor of workers in order to be rich, she is just that popular.

      And before everyone jumps down my ass about my opinion sounding too conservative for Lemmy, I invite you to check out my post history.

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        The thousands of people making those records sell and shows happen:

        There is no self made billionaire, a billion is an absurd amount of wealth a singular person cannot actually earn or be worth.

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          7 months ago

          “To make apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe” ~Carl Sagan

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          People payed $2,000 a ticket to see Taylor perform… that was their decision.

          • He’s talking about all the people working at the label and concert agency. Do you think the technicians and riggers whot take care of all the audio, light and show effects get more money at her concerts? What about the people doing the security, check-in, cleaning and so on?

            Try having a concert without any of these. There is hundreds of people working to make stadion concerts happen.

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              7 months ago

              … they do that for all the acts… doesn’t have much to do with how rich any particular performer is.

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                it absolutely does. every single worker that works under any labor agreement is making less than what their labor is worth. capitalism only works when you can make money off of how much someone is worth and not pay them the full amount. there is no incentive in capitalism to pay people what they are truly worth because that would mean no profit. she also profits off of countless years of technological advancements made by underpaid workers that allow her to have the production value and presence she has. i really find it hard to believe that people can’t just see the plainness of how this labor thing works. why would anyone start a business if they couldnt profit off of their workers?

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        7 months ago

        What a sad state of affairs that you feel the need to “defend” yourself by claiming you’re not conservative. What the hell happened that we can’t have differing opinions without making blanket disclaimers?

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          7 months ago

          When you state something that is in line with the statements of terrible people it is prudent to denounce those people or otherwise say you are unaffiliated with their overall platform.

          Yes, people shouldn’t assume that you are saying more than you are, but it is still prudent to understand that people will make those assumptions. It shows self awareness.

          Normally, I would agree with you. But conservatives have been getting more fascist and have been making more calls for violence over the past decade. It’s a good idea to separate yourself from them if you don’t agree with those points.

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            But conservatives have been getting more fascist and have been making more calls for violence over the past decade

            how many riots were carried out by conservatives in the last 10 years?

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              The most well knows is the January 6th riot in DC. But I don’t think that’s the best metic for violence.

              How many rioters have actually killed people?

              Then how many conservative police officers have killed unarmed suspects? What about during liberal riots? How many women’s lives have been lost due to abortion bans because of conservatives? How many people have died because of lethal measures taken at the us/mexico border because of conservative policies? How many Palestinians have been killed by conservative Israeli Zionists? How many Ukrainians have been killed by conservative Russians? How many people have been killed by conservative Filipino police? How many Rohingya have died in Myanmar?

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                How many Palestinians have been killed by conservative Israeli Zionists? How many Ukrainians have been killed by conservative Russians? How many people have been killed by conservative Filipino police? How many Rohingya have died in Myanmar?

                No bearing at all in this conversation. We can do nothing about those in other countries. But good job deflecting the question.

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      If this one action makes her a bad person, then there are no good people, which then of course would mean there are no good billionaires.

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        “that one action” lol

        She is basically the worst case of private jet usage and leading the list of such individuals, while somehow advocating for the environment.

        This is just ridiculous.

        And she is trying to fuck that guy up for “stalking” and “harassment”, just for showing public data.

        On top, for whatever reason, she had 2 private jets flying around until now. Seems like she sold one this month.

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          I’m don’t want to defend her use of a private her, but it seems like a ridiculous puritan test if that this makes her a bad human.

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            Just such an incredibly weird statement to make that Taylor Swift of all people is the threshold for finding any good in the world, and if she’s not it then no one is.

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              I think you hit the nail on the head.

              We all suck, there’s no good in humans. Maybe we should stop looking at humans, dogs might be a good place to start after all the comments I’ve heard about us not deserving them.

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              7 months ago

              This is not at all what I said. I said the metric used here to paint Taylor Swift as a bad person requires a level of pureness that would mean pretty much everyone is a bad person.

              I have no idea whether she is a good perspn, but I do know that “she flies in a private jet and her lawyers sued someone because they claim it is a threat to her safety… So she’s a bad person!” Is a terrible argument.