But I was told no one would ever consider letting Trump win and that it was just Very Concerned People™ voicing their concerns, not an attempt to throw the election to literal fascists???
In her view, it’s not her personal responsibility to stop Trump; it’s Harris’s and the Democrats’. And if Trump has another go at the presidency, then it’s only the Democrats to blame, not the voters who defected. Choosing to sit out or vote third party is a way to remind the major parties that they aren’t doing enough.
God I love it when people treat voting as a spiritual responsibility and not a matter of being entrusted with political power, really makes me feel great about the state of civic education in this fucking country.
And if Trump has another go at the presidency, then it’s only the Democrats to blame, not the voters who defected.
This is honestly the worst part of this whole thing, because if it happens, they won’t even have a come to Jesus “Wow, maybe I shouldn’t have done that” moment that might influence their actions in the future - instead it will just galvanize them against the party that they are ideologically closest to.
I’m not at all surprised. I guess the sarcasm in the first line wasn’t thick enough for some people to parse. This is exactly what I expected from day 1 of this style of agitation, no matter how many times people swore up and down that it definitely wasn’t about ushering in a fascist dictatorship via Trump, just ‘expressing’ a desire for policy change.
Turns out it was all bad faith bullshit, just like so many of us recognized even at the time. Quelle surprise.
With the attitude of democrats (the term blueMAGA is looking more appealing by the second) this election I think I know why people vote Republican. The sheer condescension and speed of rejecting any idea you don’t agree with is astounding and frustrating. You cry about everyone who doesn’t agree with you wanting to usher in a fascist dictatorship; I’ll be watching while you lose Michigan (and maybe one other state) to the groupthink.
Please stope writing and go away. Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad. The rest of us are willing to sacrifice a limb to save the patient. None of us enjoy it or are glad to have to make that choice, but WE HAVE TO SAVE THE PATIENT YOU JACKBOOTED DIMWIT.
If people on the internet made you so upset you decide to vote for openly fascist Repubs to spite them, you had zero principles in the first place. You are and have always been a MAGA. (But of course everyone could tell from your pretending “Blue MAGA” is a thing.)
I’m not American so I’m not voting either way. Also I wasn’t saying I’d vote Republican or condoning it, but the sheer condescension I saw in that exchange makes it more believable if this exchange is in any way representative of politically active democrat voters. I also didn’t say I was voting republican in any part of my comment so I’m curious where you got that from.
That aside, you said blueMAGA isn’t a thing but preemptively blaming genocide victims for not licking the boot hard enough (instead of, you know, acting in solidarity or holding your leaders accountable) is definitely blueMAGA behavior. Getting defensive whenever someone points the very real flaws in your genocidal candidate’s campaign strategy (that was, in fact, how this comment chain started) and how they’re treating their constituents is blueMAGA behavior. Resorting to name calling whenever someone makes an objective, non-opinionated statement that indicts your candidate, or—god forbid—actually have an opinion that doesn’t agree with your is blueMAGA behavior. How do I know? Because it’s regular MAGA behavior with a dash of blue paint. And before you resort to more name calling, these are all things I experienced in this very same comment chain, for making these two statements: “Of course Arab and Mudlim Americans aren’t voting for Harris how did anybody expect anything else” and "No it’s not because they want fascism how did you even come to that conclusion ". If you disagree with either statement you’re welcome yo try and actually refute them with arguments, but if the only thing you have to say is calling me a Republican/troll/whatever then don’t bother.
You see what Donald is saying he will do and what Donald’s voters are writing online, then you see attitude you don’t like from Harris voters online. You still are willing to write that it’s believable people would vote for Donald despite the former because of the latter. Looks like we’re pretty lucky you’re not able to vote.
It is believable. I mean it’s happening, and denying that this sort of attitude isn’t part of the reason is denying reality. I never said it’s rational, because it isn’t, but it’s a thing and it’s partially leftists not understanding that that got you (and us since your elections affect everyone) into this situation to begin with.
But I was told no one would ever consider letting Trump win and that it was just Very Concerned People™ voicing their concerns, not an attempt to throw the election to literal fascists???
God I love it when people treat voting as a spiritual responsibility and not a matter of being entrusted with political power, really makes me feel great about the state of civic education in this fucking country.
This is honestly the worst part of this whole thing, because if it happens, they won’t even have a come to Jesus “Wow, maybe I shouldn’t have done that” moment that might influence their actions in the future - instead it will just galvanize them against the party that they are ideologically closest to.
It would be like if LGBT folk in 2000 said Gore wasn’t LGBT-friendly enough, so they were fine with Bush winning.
Do they have legitimate complaints? Yes. Does that justify ushering in someone who will be worse for literally everyone? Fuck no.
I’ve literally seen people make that argument against Kamala. Apparently she’s not LGBTQ friendly enough 🙄
While also conveniently ignoring that Republicans are the ones blocking any progress.
Those people are either idiots, or arguing in bad faith. Too many disinformation agents or accelerationists on Lemmy.
It is infuriating.
With the massive middle finger Harris has been giving Arabs since the start of her campaign, how the fuck are you surprised?
I’m not at all surprised. I guess the sarcasm in the first line wasn’t thick enough for some people to parse. This is exactly what I expected from day 1 of this style of agitation, no matter how many times people swore up and down that it definitely wasn’t about ushering in a fascist dictatorship via Trump, just ‘expressing’ a desire for policy change.
Turns out it was all bad faith bullshit, just like so many of us recognized even at the time. Quelle surprise.
With the attitude of democrats (the term blueMAGA is looking more appealing by the second) this election I think I know why people vote Republican. The sheer condescension and speed of rejecting any idea you don’t agree with is astounding and frustrating. You cry about everyone who doesn’t agree with you wanting to usher in a fascist dictatorship; I’ll be watching while you lose Michigan (and maybe one other state) to the groupthink.
Mask off, really just astounding.
Please stope writing and go away. Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad. The rest of us are willing to sacrifice a limb to save the patient. None of us enjoy it or are glad to have to make that choice, but WE HAVE TO SAVE THE PATIENT YOU JACKBOOTED DIMWIT.
You guys are happy to do it when you’re not the limb.
How does the consequence of the entire patient DYING escape your understanding?
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If people on the internet made you so upset you decide to vote for openly fascist Repubs to spite them, you had zero principles in the first place. You are and have always been a MAGA. (But of course everyone could tell from your pretending “Blue MAGA” is a thing.)
I’m not American so I’m not voting either way. Also I wasn’t saying I’d vote Republican or condoning it, but the sheer condescension I saw in that exchange makes it more believable if this exchange is in any way representative of politically active democrat voters. I also didn’t say I was voting republican in any part of my comment so I’m curious where you got that from.
That aside, you said blueMAGA isn’t a thing but preemptively blaming genocide victims for not licking the boot hard enough (instead of, you know, acting in solidarity or holding your leaders accountable) is definitely blueMAGA behavior. Getting defensive whenever someone points the very real flaws in your genocidal candidate’s campaign strategy (that was, in fact, how this comment chain started) and how they’re treating their constituents is blueMAGA behavior. Resorting to name calling whenever someone makes an objective, non-opinionated statement that indicts your candidate, or—god forbid—actually have an opinion that doesn’t agree with your is blueMAGA behavior. How do I know? Because it’s regular MAGA behavior with a dash of blue paint. And before you resort to more name calling, these are all things I experienced in this very same comment chain, for making these two statements: “Of course Arab and Mudlim Americans aren’t voting for Harris how did anybody expect anything else” and "No it’s not because they want fascism how did you even come to that conclusion ". If you disagree with either statement you’re welcome yo try and actually refute them with arguments, but if the only thing you have to say is calling me a Republican/troll/whatever then don’t bother.
You see what Donald is saying he will do and what Donald’s voters are writing online, then you see attitude you don’t like from Harris voters online. You still are willing to write that it’s believable people would vote for Donald despite the former because of the latter. Looks like we’re pretty lucky you’re not able to vote.
It is believable. I mean it’s happening, and denying that this sort of attitude isn’t part of the reason is denying reality. I never said it’s rational, because it isn’t, but it’s a thing and it’s partially leftists not understanding that that got you (and us since your elections affect everyone) into this situation to begin with.
You have the absolute dumbest reasoning. The simple use of Blue MAGA already paints you as a fool.
I’m sure whatever country your from is dealing with its own alt-right problem, but judging by your comments, you’re probably fully in support of that.