Oh goodie. I have to explain yet again that I am seriously ill which leaves me with very little energy to do much and also stuck in a town I hate far away from any friends. I’m sorry I can’t go out and join an intramural sports league for your benefit.
I spend all day on the internet too (fuck sports), but I spread that time across various platforms. I have a severe mental health issue that prevents me from holding down a job, so I get it. But I also realize when it’s time to lurk more.
That article is from ten years ago. I’d suspect the numbers would still be worse than they should be, but Ukraine has become a much bigger situation since then which is why you’re using it in this example, so this is not an accurate picture you’re painting.
Do you really think Ukraine being featured prominently in American news, pop culture, political discourse, and zeitgeist in general for the past two and a half years hasn’t affected those numbers? You would not have used Ukraine in this example had it not been for the current conflict. To use numbers from ten years ago is a deliberate misrepresentation of reality.
Like I said: “I’d suspect the numbers would still be worse than they should be”
But also, you’re doing it again. You’re saying “despite the latter [Afghanistan] lasting 20 years,” but dude you linked images from 2006. It hadn’t been 20 years yet. In fact, that data is from nearly 20 years ago!
That is, again, extremely misleading data to support the argument you’re making.
How would I know if it is or isn’t different today based on your comment? How am I supposed to answer that question? By asking that, you are asserting that it is different today. Yet you have given no numbers for what it is today for the same countries on that image.
You know that, and you are trying to sidestep me now while accusing me of sidestepping. Why is that? You said in the beginning of your comment:
Americans couldn’t find Iraq and Afghanistan on maps during those wars despite the latter lasting 20 Years and Americans being involved in them.
You are saying here that those wars lasted a long time, and one lasted 20 years, and despite that, Americans couldn’t find those countries on maps during those wars. But the data is from the beginning of that time period. So after 20 years yes obviously the numbers would change. But that data doesn’t say that. That data is the starting point. A lazy reader might very easily think that data supported your point. Same as your previous comment I took issue with.
There was those great videos of a presenter asking people on the street to point out various countries on a world map that didn’t have the country names.
I would recommend a comma or period (or, arguably, a semicolon), an exclamation point and some capitalization.
Edit: Two exclamation points would also work. But not in a row.
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That is my normal state, yes.
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Oh goodie. I have to explain yet again that I am seriously ill which leaves me with very little energy to do much and also stuck in a town I hate far away from any friends. I’m sorry I can’t go out and join an intramural sports league for your benefit.
I spend all day on the internet too (fuck sports), but I spread that time across various platforms. I have a severe mental health issue that prevents me from holding down a job, so I get it. But I also realize when it’s time to lurk more.
I think I’m just going to start posting facts about how anti-intellectual America is to enrage my fellow citizens on Lemmy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/wheres-ukraine-84-percent-americans-dont-know-survey-says-n84051
Quite a few thought it was Greenland though.
wow that looks like a very wide normal distribution maybe a mixture with another smaller peak at middle east lol
That article is from ten years ago. I’d suspect the numbers would still be worse than they should be, but Ukraine has become a much bigger situation since then which is why you’re using it in this example, so this is not an accurate picture you’re painting.
Do you really think Americans have flocked to maps since then?
Do you really think Ukraine being featured prominently in American news, pop culture, political discourse, and zeitgeist in general for the past two and a half years hasn’t affected those numbers? You would not have used Ukraine in this example had it not been for the current conflict. To use numbers from ten years ago is a deliberate misrepresentation of reality.
Americans couldn’t find Iraq and Afghanistan on maps during those wars despite the latter lasting 20 Years and Americans being involved in them.
https://media.nationalgeographic.org/assets/file/Roper-Poll-2006-Highlights.pdf
Why is it different today?
Like I said: “I’d suspect the numbers would still be worse than they should be”
But also, you’re doing it again. You’re saying “despite the latter [Afghanistan] lasting 20 years,” but dude you linked images from 2006. It hadn’t been 20 years yet. In fact, that data is from nearly 20 years ago!
That is, again, extremely misleading data to support the argument you’re making.
I literally asked why it is different today from 2006.
How is that misleading?
I made no attempt to hide it was from 2006.
It’s also a question you didn’t answer. So it’s pretty rich to suggest I’m the one being dishonest here.
How would I know if it is or isn’t different today based on your comment? How am I supposed to answer that question? By asking that, you are asserting that it is different today. Yet you have given no numbers for what it is today for the same countries on that image.
You know that, and you are trying to sidestep me now while accusing me of sidestepping. Why is that? You said in the beginning of your comment:
You are saying here that those wars lasted a long time, and one lasted 20 years, and despite that, Americans couldn’t find those countries on maps during those wars. But the data is from the beginning of that time period. So after 20 years yes obviously the numbers would change. But that data doesn’t say that. That data is the starting point. A lazy reader might very easily think that data supported your point. Same as your previous comment I took issue with.
There was those great videos of a presenter asking people on the street to point out various countries on a world map that didn’t have the country names.
Answers were… interesting, to say the least.