• wlodi@szmer.info
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    22 days ago

    Totally agree. After all the progress the US is still not ready to accept anyone else than white men at the top.

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      21 days ago

      You people are about to overdose on copium. This is a lazy view. “she lost because of race and sex”. You need to really ask people why she couldn’t secure their vote.

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        21 days ago

        The “Run Up” podcast had an episode following the Working Families Party while they were out knocking on doors for Harris in a poor projects type neighborhood. The first lady they talk to is hesitant to vote for Harris because she’s a prosecutor who jailed black men for weed. While they are talking and the canvasser is trying to convince her, her neighbor jumps in and he says something to the effect of “Harris is a woman and world leaders won’t respect her and get us in a lot of trouble”.

        Is sexism/racism the reason Harris lost? No, I personally at this point think it has more to do with the Democratic party’s inability to offer solutions for working families - Dems are the center right party representing corporate interests and the elite while paying lip service to actual regular people, MAGA is viewed as the party of the common man, as bullshit as that is it’s what voters feel. I personally think the only way forward is an actual progressive platform which addresses fundamental economic unfairness in the system, and candidates who can connect to and explain that platform to regular folk of all races and demographics.

        But you can’t deny that sexism/racism didn’t play a significant role in the loss.

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          21 days ago

          Hearing a sexist comment once is not evidence of wide spread sexism. You’re allowing your personal views to color your objective view. Show me dozens of videos of someone saying they won’t vote for Harris because of her sex or race and I might think otherwise. Isolated incidents don’t mean much.

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        20 days ago

        I used to respond to people like you carefully and in some depth, with the hope that others who needed the words could read mine and feel indirectly supported.

        I’m not doing that today. My original statement stands, your statement is the way you are personally trying to accept the guilt, shame or disappointment in this reality, I’ll leave it at that.

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          21 days ago

          “my view is right because it’s mine. Yours is wrong because it’s not mine”

          No guilt, disappointment, or shame in my game. My life is pretty great.

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            21 days ago

            Actually says a lot about you if you can say that in this moment. Thanks for that clarity.

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              21 days ago

              Yes, it says I’m a normal person living a normal life and I don’t live my life perpetually online and have not become a radical. Cheers mate.