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    Trans women want to be referred to as just women, and biological women don’t want to be referred to as Cis women, so other than female, what is there?

    I agree that I get the ick from female when referred to by certain men, but at this point, I don’t see another option.

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    I love that this dumb dumb made a post on reddit. There are search engines, large language models, and the good ole thesaurus to find words that are synonyms. Figure. It. Out.

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    Meanwhile: males, dudes, guys, homies, fellas, bois, bros, lads, laddie, mates, geezers, chaps, gents, boss, hoss, cheif, buddy, pal, son, sonny, sonny boy, muchacho, hombre, old timer, Mac, Joe…

    “Yeah what’s up?”

    I don’t think we need to cancel Guys and Dolls just yet.

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      I love that half of these are fully gender neutral terms of endearment in Australia 😂

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        Honestly a lot of them start out as or still contextually imply “males” in the US, but can be used gender neutrally as well now too. Like “how you guys doing” vs “hanging out with the guys.”

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          It’s interesting isn’t it? “Guys” can include women, and can even be a group of only women, but you can’t talk about a single woman as a guy - “I snogged this gorgeous guy last night”.

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      Ooo help me learn today if you don’t mind… Where does this prefix grouping come from?

      Edit: found it, I think: Chinese?

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        Yeah, what they’re saying doesn’t make much sense logically though.

        Men here is 们, the plural marker for people. Wo (我) is I or me, wo+men (我们) we or us, ni (你) is you, ni+men (你们) is you (plural), ta (他/她/它) is he/she/it, and ta+men (+们) is they.

        Some other variants exists, and there’s specifics on the usage. I also missed the tone markers on the pinyin because they’re a pain to type.

        Anyway I’m not sure what joke or point they were trying to make.

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        Correct; wo, ni, ta are the singular forms I, you, he/she/it. Adding the -men suffix turns it into the plural we/you/they.

        So literally, ‘we’ are ‘women’.

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      As a man who likes fedoras, this stereotype offends me. Sadly, it’s an accurate description most of th etime.

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        Usually the Redditors wear the fedora without knowing how to pair it correctly with the rest of their outfits, so don’t worry, if you wear a nice attire and a fedora people won’t get you confused with the guy wearing an ahegao t-shirt two sizes too small and cargo shorts.

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      And I can hear it spoken with a lisp that you get when talking with a mouth full of prosthetics. Pfemales

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    In most contexts, you’d just say…”people”.

    Or, if you’re actually trying to make a demographic-wide statement, like how women aren’t good at video games, you’d just say:

    “IGNORE ME, I AN A SEXIST MORON.”

    Basically, the meme isn’t much meant for the word choice, it’s how often incels have statements to make on half the population.

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    You remember how everyone just used to say women 10-20 years ago? I guess that’s woke now. So much for conserving.

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            The multiple of “trans woman” is “trans women” just like with “cis women” not “trans-woman”.

            There’s also no dash in either “cis women” or “trans women”, it’s not half-cis half-woman like Spider-Man, it’s just a descriptor adjective, like “cis woman” and “trans woman”.

            “Cis” and “Trans” of course come from the Latin prefix “this side of” such as in Cislunar Orbit or Translunar Injection (TLI) in astrodynamics or the Cisalpine Gaul in historical geography or in Cis/Trans isomerism in Chemistry.

            “Transmaxxing” is primarily used by incels that believe transition can be a way out of their inceldom, similar to gymmaxing etc., while I’ve never heard of anyone actually transitioning for such silly reasons as it’s a helluva thing to do, I doubt that this would work out in their favour.

            Additionally while many cis women do hate trans women, statistically speaking they are less likely to be against trans rights than men, especially on issues like trans women using the women’s bathroom or gyms or other issues that upset some cis people like healthcare access for trans children via either hormones or puberty blockers.

            Source from surveys carried out on TERF Island in 2020 and 2022:

            https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/43194-where-does-british-public-stand-transgender-rights-1

            https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/30906-where-does-british-public-stand-transgender-rights

            Let me know if you need further help.

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      Is female derogatory? I thought it was just a more scientific classification.

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        If you are calling a woman “a female”, and aren’t a cop discussing a victim or a doctor writing a chart, then yes, it’s fucking derogatory.

        We’re not Ferengi.

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        Using female as a noun (rather than as an adjective, such as in the phrase “female firefighter”, or any phrase of the format “female $noun”) is generally overly clinical and dehumanizing. Some people do it out of habit due to their profession-- usually researchers or soldiers-- but they usually say “males and females”, which while still weird isn’t the worst.

        The guys who say “men and females” are the ones you need to watch out for.

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        Using scientific terminology in colloquial speech is weird and creepy in most contexts. Calling kids “juveniles” and women “females” carries certain connotations, most of them bad.

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        It’s not inherently derogatory, but it does hold a connotation if you refer to women as females particularly in contexts where you wouldn’t/don’t refer to men as males.

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        Yes, using scientific terminology can be derogatory. But in this case, acting like the opposite gender is a species on its own, classifying them as animals and slurring all women as hoes gave it away for me.