• qarbone@lemmy.world
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    I enjoy the meme content.

    I enjoy the appropriate inversion of the meme format more.

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    I always hate plot holes where problems could be solved with money, especially when a character is super rich. Obi-wan and Anakin had years to raise the money to buy Shmi’s freedom from Watto. Qui-gon had plenty of Imperial credits, but Watto wouldn’t accept them.

    So, Ani wins the podtace and then as soon as you’re off planet, hyperspace it to the nearest Republic outpost and trade the credits for some money. Go back, buy Shmi, or just cut Watto the slaver in half with a lightsaber. Obi-Wan cuts a dude’s arm off for much less.

    Or, like, Jedi mind tricks don’t work on Watto, but I bet theres a Durosian jeweler across the street that isn’t immune to Jedi mind tricks. Trade his Republican credits for all the cash in his till and the nicest Aurodium necklaces in the shop.

    And why couldn’t Harry take his best mate Ron shopping with him to pick out some decent dress robes or a new wand? Kid’s got a vault full of gold, and he basically lives at his friend’s house half the time.

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      I love how Dragon Ball of all franchises avoids this problem via Bulma just throwing money at every problem that can’t be solved by Goku just punching it really hard. And if she doesn’t do than Hercule aka Mr. Satan does it.

      Which is lampshaded by TFS’ End of Z dub “Man I’m glad all the people with money only use it for good!”

      And it’s hard to argue otherwise because weirdly enough, he’s right, in Dragon Ball excessive wealth is never actually shown to be a bad thing in and of itself. Even the characters shown to be dictators like Frieza are more concerned with causing violence than accumulating wealth.

      Heck the Nazis even show up (the Red Ribbon Army) and the only thing they really want to accomplish is making their leader taller.

      There’s a lot to criticize about Dragon Ball’s story telling, but weirdly enough it never occurred to me “Whitewashing of billionaires” is one of them.

      Even if we get the movies involved, only two DBZ movies involve money. One of them is a billionaire who hosts a tournament, and the only problem is he screws up and accidentally hires REAL aliens instead of actors for the space theme of the final battle, and the other rich guy we see uses his wealth to create super powered clones that obey his every whim… Their only intended purpose is to debunk Hercule/Mr. Satan’s martial arts prowess, which isn’t really an evil act since Mr. Satan is considered a major celebrity due to heroic feats he never did and is incapable of.

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      why couldn’t Harry take his best mate Ron shopping with him to pick out some decent dress robes or a new wand?

      That would have put a strain on his relationship with the Weasleys:

      He would willingly have split all the money in his Gringotts vault with the Weasleys, but he knew they would never take it.

      - Goblet of Fire, chapter 10

      The few times Harry does buy stuff for Ron, Ron gets quite uncomfortable. Also, the first thing Harry does after giving startup money to the twins is to tell them to buy Ron some new dress robes.

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        Yeah I’ve been seeing this Ron and Harry meme all over the place. I’m not a potter fan, I don’t think the books are anything super special, but still

        It’s very clearly shown that Harry would be willing to help them out financially but they don’t want Harry’s money in the slightest

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      I feel like most adventure-style movie plots need to be run as a D&D campaign before final edit.

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        So, you’re saying more big bad guy lairs need fire suppression systems? Or was only ever my players who restored to fire as a first, last, and often only, option?

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    I don’t think I’ve seen this meme format where Anakin and Padmé are reversed. Love it.

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    The Jedi order didn’t want Jedis to have any attachments. They probably would have try to block Anakin reuniting with his mother, or expell him from the order if that happened.

    Qui Gon, as he was close to almost rebelling against the order, was probably the only one who understood that the kid needed his mother and that there wasn’t nothing bab about that.

    Maybe that’s why the Emperor send Maul to kill Qui Gon, he needed Anakin oppressed by the order so he can turn to the dark side.

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      Maybe that’s why the Emperor send Maul to kill Qui Gon, he needed Anakin oppressed by the order so he can turn to the dark side.

      This is actually why the song for the fight is called Duel of the Fates, because its outcome actually decides Anakin’s ultimate fate in falling to the dark side due to Qui-Gon’s death occurring in it. Had it ended differently, Anakin would have been trained by Qui-Gon Jinn, and likely found himself confiding in Qui-Gon instead of Sidious.

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        In both scenarios Obiwan is considered a pretty shite mentor. Seems apt.

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      The Jedi do seem to have a huge attachment to no attachments. There’s got to be a middle way, right?

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        “Okay you can join the Jedi order, but you can only have one sketchy garage full of your stuff locked in there. One! And no moving in a bed and bringing family members to live in there, kapeesh? Skywalker I’m looking at you!”

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      Qui Gon, as he was close to almost rebelling against the order, was probably the only one who understood that the kid needed his mother

      Qui Gon wasn’t in rebellion against the Jedi. Just the opposite, he was all the way into the Kool aid, chasing fantastic prophecies about Jedi Messiah.

      His final wish wasn’t to see Anakin grow up with his mom, but to see Balance Return to The Force (a problem that’s never properly illustrated in the movies, just mentioned as a philosophical hang up).

      Maybe that’s why the Emperor send Maul to kill Qui Gon, he needed Anakin oppressed by the order so he can turn to the dark side.

      Maul wasn’t sent to kill Qui Gon specifically, just to eliminate the Jedi interfering with the plot to spark civil war.

      Anakin was one more useful idiot for Palatine to exploit. Only useful until he couldn’t kill that last lingering Jedi.

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      To be fair he tried to liberate his mother too. He just noticed that it was impossible without risking everything (the engine and Anakin).

      If he had survived I think he would have actually come back for the boy’s mother. Specially once he saw Anakin having a hard time about losing her.

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        There was also a weird chemistry there between Shmi and Quigon. I think he’d definitely come back for one reason or another.

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      “The Jedi are against giving a fuck about anything unless it serves our interests.”

      Can’t imagine why Anakin rebelled.

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        The Jedi are against starting a war without the consent of the people that will actually suffer the consequences of that war.

        At least when it’s not one of them on the line, anyway.

        The thing is, if any of then gave a shit, they’d have her free shortly after leaving, without attacking anybody.

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          They can’t save everybody everywhere, but as you say, they could have used stealth to save people where they can without starting a war.

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    Sadly, Anakin’s mum had already been claimed by Watto, and Padme didn’t know about unclaimsies.

    (for anyone confused, this is a reference to Skeleton Crew).

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      After Book of Boba Fett stabbed me in the heart right where my love of Star Wars is, and then Andor twisted the knife (and got applauded for it), I don’t watch those shows anymore. What’s unclaimsies and how badly does it break the lore?

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        What’s unclaimsies and how badly does it break the lore?

        Skeleton Crew is set in the world of children as much as it’s set in the world of Star Wars, and is concerned as much with pirate lore as it is Star Wars lore. “Claimsies” and “unclaimsies” is just “finders, keepers!” and another child’s attempt to reverse that.

        There’s a key moment in the show where it combines those two concepts - the made-up words and rules of children, with the made-up words and rules of pirates -

        spoiler for episode 7

        A droid decides that a call of “unclaimsies” is “close-enough” to pirate lore that it will let them re-take a ship that’s been commandeered by a pirate.

        It’s all very delightful.

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          Very very delightful. You could rip out star wars out of the thing and it would still make sense. I love it

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    “Ani… I would have… but Tatooine is so very… far far away, and I was so busy constantly restyling my hair!”

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      That’s worse.

      They know that having her half ass the attempt and then give up with an entire planet behind her is worse, right?

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        Well they did find Shmi, but by then she’d been freed and married to Cleig Lars. She did free a shitload of other slaves from Tatooine, but at that point there’s no reason to steal Shmi away from a reasonable life.

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        She wasn’t a queen in the traditional sense, it’s an elected position on Naboo. Hell, even on Earth it’s not necessarily an omnipotent position. Just because they hold a high position doesn’t mean they can wield that power for whatever whims they want. They have a whole planet to take care of, first.

        Revolutions tend to overthrow monarchies that ignore the needs of their populace.

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          I mean… C’mon though dude, we’re literally talking about ONE slave here. If you don’t have the political capital and/or diplomatic savvy to secure the freedom of a single, solitary piece of human chattel from an old, racist stereotype alien then are you even really a politician at all?

          Besides, if memory serves (which, granted, it’s been awhile), wasn’t Watto pretty taken with the sweet, chromed out hot rod they waltz in on to begin with? Cuz I’m no businessman or anything, but I’m reasonably sure there’s some sort of deal to be made there…

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            Provided he would even be willing to trade that. His entire business seemed to depend entirely on Anakin (who was taken from him), so holding on to the one slave he had left, even if just out of spite, was probably more important to him than a little bit of bling that would be fleeting.

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              He was doing business ling before Anakin was ever born. He was paid well for Anakin. His business didn’t depend on Anakin tinkering with broken robots.

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          She didn’t need to conquer an entire planet. Qui-gon bought a slave with the earnings from one pod race. She could have pawned one of her dresses for more money than Watto had ever seen. He was literally living in a dump.

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            And I’m sure he wasn’t a bitter resentful fuck who’d keep the slave just to spite the person who took his livelihood from him…

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              He was a businessman. No one took his livelihood. He’d be getting more money than he’d ever get selling her to Lars.

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        Maybe she would have survived child birth just fine if she wasn’t forced choked to within an inch of her life just before giving birth.

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          I love a fucking robot, a literal soulless machine, is the one who makes the “Broken heart” diagnosis