• GoodEye8@lemm.ee
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      1 day ago

      Show me exactly where I defended the system. Show me a single line.

      You’re just leaving yourself a convenient back door to not tip while benefitting from tipping culture.

      Trying to guilt people into tipping

      But if you would like to go somewhere that expects tips, you better fucking tip

      Literally telling people to tip.

      If you go to a restaurant that expects tips and you don’t tip, you are keeping them in business while screwing over the person working.

      If nobody tipped at those restaurants nobody would work at those restaurants and those restaurants would have to either start paying livable wage or go out of business.

      I said if you don’t want tipping to continue, you can’t support restaurants that tip.

      And I agree. I avoid going to such restaurants if given a chance. But if circumstances require going to such a restaurant do you really think tipping at that restaurant is less beneficial to the restaurant than not tipping?

      In that scenario you are perpetuating the system by participating in it. It’s a choice.

      If circumstances force me to participate then I should go all the way? Is that what you’re saying? So if a vegan orders a plate that happens to have meat in it then the vegan should eat that meat? After-all they’ve already participated by ordering something with meat.

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          24 hours ago

          “If you don’t want to support tipping culture, don’t go somewhere that expects tips. But if you do happen to go somewhere that expects tips (regardless of how you end up going there) you absolutely must support tipping culture”.

          Now let me take your point into absurdity.

          “If you don’t want to support gun violence you shouldn’t own a gun. But if you happen to own a gun you should do a mass shooting.”

          That’s how your argument comes across to me. I have no issue with the first part of your argument, I do that. But I have an issue with the second part because that is defending tipping culture.

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              24 hours ago

              Which part of that statement was lying or misrepresenting? They’re your words. The first part.

              I’m saying “do not go somewhere that expects tips,”

              And the second part.

              I’m saying do not go somewhere where you’re supposed to tip and not tip or you’re even worse than the problem. If you do, you need to tip.