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Most men are not much into the idea, either.
Intimacy is something very human, something most people are not ready to trust a machine to do, even if it’s capable of visibly empathetic reactions.
There is a desire to connect with another human being, not programmed to like you, but actually choosing you freely. It’s what people call “feeling it real”.
Most folks I have seen pushing for robotic partners are incels craving at least some form of closeness - having something like this might be better than nothing.
Also, dudes, let’s be real: would you put your dick into a machine much stronger than you? Something goes wrong and you don’t have your precious parts anymore.
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I dunno, everyone was cool with the love story of Wanda & The Vision from the MCU. I guess fucking robots is not ok, but becoming emotionally attached to one is?
The love story in the movie “Her” is even more impressive. It’s impressive because it’s not even a robot, it’s just an AI voice and yet the love story is still compelling. And it also asks bigger questions, sure there’s the question of could a person fall in love with a machine, and is that ok? But it goes further to ask, if the machine is actually intelligent, what does the machine see in the humans? Do the machines actually still need the humans at all?
I don’t think that’s a linear logic. We all know Vision is a robot. But we also know it’s a story about a robot that is played by a man. We are watching for the spectacle, not because we believed the story to be real.
Vision was also a robot with human-type consciousness and intelligence. We can, at least, nudge that into “funny-looking human” through suspension of disbelief.
Our level of robots is nowhere near that.
I will get a sex robot when it can scoop catboxes and fold laundry.
Genius! It will sell even without the sex
Aren’t most incels men?
There are plenty of women who don’t have intercourse regularly, but they are less likely than their male counterparts to whine about it.
They are less likely to be much concerned, even.
Men, on average, have a stronger sexual drive.
Realistically how is a man going to design a good sex robot for a woman? Let a woman do that, they’ll get what they want.
Women already have the perfect sex bot. It’s called a Sybian.
And if that Sybian could pick you up, and stroke your thighs, massage your breasts, have hips and legs to simulate the sexual positions that it can’t provide you, while still being what it is, there is a huge room for improvement on the design of the sybian and what great things it does
Syban is probably designed by a man.
…in the early 1980s, he teamed up with a female physician who believed in the idea. They spent the next 18 months gathering research, asking for insights and meeting with engineers who could bring the product to life.
From inception to prototyping to how the Sybian performs today wasn’t a “one and done” process. Years of research, conducting interviews and refinement went into its creation. As the creator himself says, “Sybian is not the result of what I thought it should be, but the collective input of many women.”
You can’t seriously think the ultimate female orgasm machine was invented without women? Plenty of videos that will back me on the “ultimate” part!
My comment was totally unencumbered by facts or data.
But it’s not that too far fetched to think it could have been created by a man. For example, in the entire compendium of research around womens health, some not insignificant number of studies around things like menopause, thyroid insufficiency, and aging are not woman specific , and in many of the studies do not include women at all. And we base our medical approach to women on this research.
Women are constantly systematically overlooked and left out.
It’s not to far for me to think that some horney engineer made it.
In this case it’s fun to be wrong , as you have pointed out.
@shalafi Out of all the weird things I’ve looked up, I can’t believe this isn’t something I’ve heard of.
Probably a group of engineers so maybe not all men, Sybian is just like the penultimate vibrator, would be a fun engineering challenge, but it’s also a marketable challenge which would be why it exists
Penultimate? Which one is the ultimate then?
Sybian doesn’t do everything it could do, so i didn’t want to call it the ultimate. But it does not seem to have any contenders that aren’t knock offs so it does feel like a Pinnacle as a vibrator if not as a sex toy
I wanted to show for what comes next. Maybe I’m wrong and there isn’t, but a sybian that can view your reactions and learn each users unique preferences would be an improvement
A sybian as the hips of a sex robot maybe? Like its fine, but its just a box , you get on to get off and then it is done with you. Theres no after care or anything else.
I guess a portable discreet version will require entirely new components that we probably cant manufacture yet, or are cost prohibited.
I dunno what the ultimate is, so penultimate seems a good choice to use if i can see improvements to it that dont yet exist
In this case penultimate is used to describe something that is nearly perfect. As if to say, there is little room for improvement.
Penultimate means “next to last”, and that’s it.
✅: Does what it’s asked to do
✅: Doesn’t talk back
I’d kill to get my wife one, but that $1,300 tag gives me sticker shock.
So you’re saying you value human life at less than $1,300.
Your phone is probably worth that much
Yes, but the vibrator in your phone isn’t 75% of the user interface.
Was only trying to put 1300 dollars into a more palatable frame of reference
But with that money you can give her the ride of her life…
Repeatability is king! :)
You’re telling me women don’t like vibrators.
Speak for yourself. Gimme that drama free dick.
I guess a vibrator isn’t a type of sex robot?
Just saying that these sort of toys were way more normalized for women long before they were for men.
A man with a fleshlight was a gross weirdo, a woman with a vibrator is a strong independent woman taking control of her sexuality and not settling for the weakness of flesh in men.
This was my thought. Its the same way all our technology has grown. Honestly I think brain interfaces could eclipse robots like this before they are that great. As scary as that is.
Colloquially, the word “robot” always implies a certain amount of anthropomorphism. So no, I don’t think a vibrator would count, as basically no vibrators on the market try to look human-like.
But that definitely is a weird difference between male and female sexuality - the sex toys women buy most are the very effective and utilitarian ones: Vibrator wands, Rabbits, Air pulse Vibrators etc.
While the most popular tools for men tend to focus on “realism”(?): Fleshlights, Sex Dolls, things like VR and POV porn. And I guess sex robots would fall into that category too in the future.
I can absolutely see the weirdness-factor of someone who is desperately trying to emulate a partner rather than just accept masturbation as a solo activity and optimize it from there 😬
Slap a pair of googly eyes on it and it as good as has a soul.
A robot doesn’t need to be anthropomorphic, an assembly line robot is still a robot. It does however need to be able to perform some actions autonomously, for which a vibrator hardly qualifies.
It does however need to be able to perform some actions autonomously, for which a vibrator hardly qualifies.
Fuck Machine has entered the chat
An assembly line robot (like welding or material handling, I’ve worked with ABB, Fanuc, Motoman, Panasonic) are still called robot “arms” with the end portion often called the “wrist” so there is a degree of anthropomorphizing even if it’s not the whole body. And they do resemble an arm, however with 6 axis motion the motion is more like from your hips to your wrist than shoulder to wrist.
Iirc, traffic lights are called robots in some African English dialects. Although it’s more like one of those regional peculiarities.
Overpriced pornstar-branded fleshlights aren’t the only masturbators in town and it’s not like there’s no life-like dildos either. The long and short of it is that the mechanics of a lubed hole are superior to that of a hand and you’re not looking at the entry point all the time so noone actually cares what they look like.
Yes, the branded stuff does exist, humans, male female, doesn’t matter, enter parasocial relationships news at 11. Can you imagine how well Justin Bieber dildos would sell.
Of course this is a thing lmfo.
Dildos and vibrators were first a medical devices for hysteria.
Dildos have been around a lot longer than that. https://allthatsinteresting.com/history-of-the-dildo
My understanding is that “hysteria” legitimized the use of the vibrator (not unlike how “weight loss” was used in the 1980s to prescribe fentanyl), but they were around before that, and probably would have found another way of entering the mainstream.
Vibrators, too, if you count the hollowed out wooden dildos filled with angry bees.
every time I see crap like this it make me think about that 30rock porn for women skit with Tina Fey
I’m no expert on attraction, but what if the sex robot looked like a skeleton?
I want to get off Mr. Bones Wild Ride.
I want to get off on Mr. Bones Wilde Ride.
Sex with a hella sexy robot? Nice.
Using a hella sexy robot to fill the emptiness of no intimacy or authentic mutual connection? Not nice.
For some reason sex with a robot doesn’t feel gross to me — until they start using it to fill a hole (hehe)
What about for people who struggle to have emotional intimacy and sexual intimacy throughout their lives because of medical issues or mental health issues?
My ex has a brother who is now pushing 40 and has never even held a woman’s hand. He has severe mental disabilities and will never live life on his own without some kind of caretaker. We know he looked at porn, partially because he refused to ever let people fix up his computer, usually out of fear of people seeing his porn.
Does he not deserve emotional and sexual intimacy? There is a high likelihood he will never have it otherwise.
until they start using it to fill a hole
What about, like in the situation I just described, when that hole will otherwise go a lifetime of being unfulfilled? Is that fair to them for being born a way they didn’t choose?
Different filler for different holes.
A sex bot is fine if you keep expectations in check. For the rest, friendship can go a long way. Help them find a hobby they can share with others (regardless of gender) and keep that platonic. That gives them social connection, and the sex bot gives physical release.
It’s not as good as a complete relationship, but at least there’s less risk of the sex bot creating more problems by trying to have it do human things.
That’s exactly the wrong take.
Provide something that isn’t what they need in order to fill a need they have.
That’s like giving someone drugs instead to masque symptoms of working in the problem and addressing it.
But that’s not right either. If providing sexual encounters was real and done appropriately then there this situation might still exists. If it’s the physical space and intimacy that are triggering, then a robot is a very good choice if it provides some of the missing human experiences that missing out on when desired make for more broken people
What they need is emotional intimacy, but they can’t get that because of crippling anxiety. You’re not going to get emotional intimacy from a robot, and if you try, you run the very real risk of really adverse effects, like this or this.
That’s why I suggested separating concerns. Keep the bot physical, and encourage real personal relationships in a low risk environment. There’s always a chance a personal relationship develops into something more, whereas there’s a lot of risk expecting a bot to fill that gap.
Well i guess im a woman then lol
They don’t
thathave that much appeal to me as well, and I’m a dude.
Holy shit
and this is why uBlock origin is the be all end all of extensions.
But FREE browsing! How revolutionary.
I’ve seen this more and more, it’s fucked up and probably illegal
Think I’ve seen this twice now in the past couple years, but yeah it’s likely not compliant with the cookie law in EU
This is perfectly legal, the law only says that the user must freely choose to allow the website to save said data. You can opt out here and not use that website.
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Lots of German Web sites do it.
Illegal where? What law does it break?
In EU with their GDPR/cookie laws. I’m pretty sure hiding the declining of tracking or cookies behind a paywall is not supported under those laws.
It is very legal and common in France too. You’re free to decline as long as you’re a customer. You’re free to accept or not see the web site.
We need search engines that hide those from results by default. Basically “walled garden-blocking”.
They want to keep the door shut until you surrender your data? Fine. They don’t get to pollute your web if you refuse then.
I wish. In the end it all depend on how individual countries interpret the EU law. In France it was decided that “either let us shit all over your privacy or pay a subscription” was okay and in the spirit of the law.
It’s bullshit IMO, but lots of sites ran with it. So those I refuse to interact with now.
It’s not but I guess they know that nothing really happens to them doing this.
This is very common in the EU. The majority of news sites do it. I believe it’s technically legal because they aren’t under obligation to provide a free access at all
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Just enable reader view in your browser.
Idk what’s the big deal, honestly. Remember the memes about yt premium, “I either give you my money, or my data, but not both”? Well, it’s kinda like that. The caveat is, their payment provider likely still collects data, and some info is saved on the backend anyways, but that’s another can of worms.
Asshole design is asshole design. They’re essentially saying here that they’ll sell your data whatever you choose, opting out is not an option.
Obviously there’s easy ways to bypass this but it’s not an excuse for them
Edit: also, their “cookie (and data sharing ) policy”:
Clicking on “accept cookies” you’re agreeing WAY more than implied
To me it looks more like they’re saying they’ll monetize their work no matter what, tho. One way is through direct payments by those who consider their articles worth paying for, then they don’t need to sell userdata or show ads; the other way is selling userdata. Well, there’s also non-targeted advertising, but mb it doesn’t worth as much or something (and targeted ads already pay close to nothing from a single viewer, afaik).
Where I personally draw the line is when such subscriptions still include ads (looking at you, “ad-free” disney+) or have unnecessarily large costs and so on. I mean, if they charge close to what they’re making with ads and selling data, we could get most websites ~tracker-free for probably a couple of bucks a month each. This, in turn, lessens the power of ad network owners, which again makes the web better. Although, mb I’m idealizing too much, idk.
