lemmygrad.ml moment
The tough issue is that while they did end slavery they never changed ownership and slaves didn’t own anything so all the people in this thread arguing how to identify actual victoms are idiots! It’s the same debate we have with cononialism just on a far smaller scale and there is no easy solution but none isn’t sufficient ether!
The US did not completely end slavery. Prisons can treat prisoners as slave labor.
True, especially considering the way they use it and the reasons they might make you one for!
How do you sort out who rightfully deserves the reparations and who should rightfully pay because of past slave ownership?
Reparations should be given not in the form of direct monetary payments, but massive investment in black communities and especially schools and scholarships. All black people in America suffer from systemic racism, so build a system they all benefit from regardless of who their ancestors were. Giving out monetary reparations won’t solve any problems. This system will provide permanent benefits to all current and future black Americans.
The same way the Jews got reparations for the Hollocaust
Reparations for the Holocaust were only given out under certain circumstances and did not cover everyone that deserved it. I know because my grandparents were survivors. People in certain ghettos got it and not others. It was not well implemented because refugees were all over the place. Reparations for slavery are ridiculous at this point. What we need is better education and mentorship in low-income communities regardless of race.
It is not only for slavery, but for Jim Crow, segregation and systematic racism. And sorry (not sorry), but black people should be the ones deciding whether they want reparations or not, not white people deciding for them wether they are ridiculous or not.
As someone of Jewish heritage, my grandparents got off a refugee boat with no money and many dead family and dealt with systemic racism as well, however within one generation we are all living comfortably enough to not loot stores and do other dumb gangster shit. I feel like there is something else at play. Jim Crow ended in the mid 60’s. These people had practically a whole lifetime to catch up. It’s a cultural issue. They have shitty values. Not everyone, but a lot of them. Playing victim or criminal does not fix the problem. If they want respect, they should earn it like everyone else. I don’t respect looters.
You are an ignorant and racist dickhole. You know shit of black culture and all you are doing is victim blaming. Are you White? Why am I even asking? Of course you are white. Only a white neoliberal would believe the “I was able to do it, even though I had white privilege, therefore you can too”. You know shit and your opinion means garbage. Go educate yourself and learn fucking history, maybe even make black friends before spewing shit on a topic that you know nothing about.
I do have black friends. They are smart and do well for themselves. They are proof that there isn’t any remaining systemic racism. We had a black president for goodness sake. Their families embrace the white European culture instead of the white cracker culture. They were raised to value an education and apply themselves. That doesn’t always happen.
1- Nobody should have to embrace European culture. European culture is not superior to any other culture. Don’t be a Eurocentric moron.
2- America cannot be racist because of Obama? Are you 5? Things got pretty racist back then with people accusing Obama of being a Muslim terrorist and wanting to see his birth certificate because they didn’t even believe that he was American. Also, as soon as his term was over Americans elected a racist fascists that enacted pretty racist policies that made lives of black people harder.
3- What kind of logic is that? Just because some black people do well doesn’t mean that systematic racism doesn’t exist. That is like saying that because some Jewish people didn’t get killed the Holocaust never happened. Or like saying that because some native Americans survived, the American Holocaust didn’t happen.
You keep spewing the same bullshit right wing rhetoric.
Here is some starter reading material for you about what systematic racism.
Median African American Household Wealth Will Reach $0 by 2053
Discriminatory housing practices are leading to the devaluation of Black Americans
Black people nine times more likely to face stop and search than white people
Wrongful convictions disproportionately affect Black Americans, report shows
Black men sentenced to more time for committing the exact same crime as a white person, study finds
Damn, I don’t know what you’ve started here but the number of presumably white people coming up with all sorts of reasons to argue why black people shouldn’t have reparations is… is it a white settler moment? Then to follow this up with ‘you need to include white people or they’re not going to like it’ is… maybe Malcolm X was onto something about white liberals.
Neither black nor white people should decide whether they get money but common sense/moral integrity should decide
So black people dont get to decide on whether they get reparation after generations of stolen wealth? Yeah, that sounds like racist right wing propaganda bullshit.
