• XenGi@lemmy.chaos.berlin
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    1 year ago

    I don’t get why people still use Microsoft services. How many data privacy scandals do we need, so they understand? Or do they still not care?

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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      1 year ago

      I have a government job (shocking to me still) and everything is on Exchange and 365. I don’t know why, other than “nobody ever got fired for recommending IBM.”

  • WikIBayer@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    Yet another reason to use Thunderbird or Evolution. There must finally be mobile devices with Linux that are usable.

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      1 year ago

      Both of those are usable but that’s about it. I use Evolution because it integrates with online accounts service well and I don’t have to mine for contacts, but overall it’s a sorry state of email clients in Linux world. Geary had nice ideas for a while, but it’s also dreadfully optimized and development has kind of stopped.

      It’s also not such an easy to problem to solve either. Whole Gnome ecosystem got a lot better with new and modern applications with sleek designs, but email clients remain a pain in the ass.

  • kapnova9@lemmynsfw.com
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    1 year ago

    People complain about Apple a lot but I think Microsoft is a much more annoying company and it is very difficult to avoid their products/services. Same with google

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    1 year ago

    I mean, duh!!

    It’s a web version wrapped in some god-awful semi-native wrapper. Everything the app does is stored on the server. So, yes, like gmail, if you give it access to another IMAP account, the password is stored on the server BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS.

    This isn’t a scandal. It shouldn’t be news.

    The bigger discussion why are we pretending a server driven mail client is local?

    • thomask@lemmy.sdf.org
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      1 year ago

      That is the discussion. Microsoft is pretending by making it the upgrade path for two products which actually are local, and hoping users won’t notice.

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      1 year ago

      the recent revamp of thunderbird is really good.

      em client (commercial product, but free for some–2 mail accounts, home use only) is also a solid choice.

      • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 year ago

        Personally disliked emclient and went back to outlook.
        Maybe I’ll consider Thunderbird in the future now that it looks modern.
        Already using Firefox.

        • lemmyingly@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Why did you dislike eM Client?

          I’ve been looking at it recently because I’m currently using Mailbird. In recent weeks they told us that support for their current client will stop in 12 months time and we need to get on their latest client, which they want a one off payment AND an annual subscription. What greedy ducks.

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    1 year ago

    It’s just outrageous that we’re in 202-almost-4 and mail is still in use the way it is.

    Seriously, the fix has been available for almost 30 years, no one has been able - or willing - to popularize it. Hmmm.