• GeneralVincent@lemmy.world
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      So you’re saying the extreme loss of civilian life is “not excessive”? Over 10,000 dead??

      Also, what are “military targets” to you? Hospitals, churches, refugee camps, and homes are all fair game? Using white phosphorus bombs and hellfire missiles?

      “AGM-114R9X is a non-explosive yet lethal missile due to its rotating blades that decapitate anyone within 3ft. The Minimum/Maximum fire distance is 1.5 km/8km.” That was launched at a hospital. This is despite Israeli insisting that Hamas is hiding in tunnels underneath densely populated areas and using civilians as “human shields” How is that going to kill members of Hamas?

      No one except people trying to commit genocide go to these lengths to ensure civilian casualties. There are so many other options if they just wanted to kill Hamas fighters. But this is excessive, indefensible, and vile.

      https://www.npr.org/2023/10/31/1209763194/the-latest-on-israels-bombing-of-the-largest-gazan-refugee-camp

      https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/5908/Israel-hits-Gaza-Strip-with-the-equivalent-of-two-nuclear-bombs

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          What’s excessive and what’s not is not clear

          Maybe not to you. But when the Israeli government says they bomb a hospital because there’s a “suspected Hamas headquarters” in it, you blindly trust them. We have no reason to distrust the people saying they definitely did not just commit countless war crimes despite other countries saying they did /s

          I’m sure the over 4,000 children that have died were suspected Hamas leaders too.

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          What’s excessive and what’s not is not clear. Hitting a hospital because there’s one Hamas member in it is certainly excessive, but if there’s a command post or even an entrenched fighting position in it that’s actively engaged in hostilities, that’s not excessive anymore. Military necessity and civilian harm have to be proportional.

          So why the fuck you simping already bud?

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      It’s 100% forbidden, there are proportionality clauses. If I slap you you can’t shoot me in the face, it’s a pretty simple concept. Your excuse doesn’t make sense either, dead isrealis less than 2000, dead Palestinians 14000, you don’t think that excessive?

      Blanket bombing of military targets correct, both of your examples contained military targets and military industries both valid targets at the time. Hamburg, oil yard, ship yards, sub pens, oil refineries. Bochum oil refineries, Krupp and a airfield.

      Notably you could take the civilian casualties from both of those bombings and I’ll venture a guess they still won’t top the current civilian death count in Palestine.