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    I don’t expect MS will give you the choice. Not as far as the whole spying on you part is concerned, at least.

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    Well at least this surely will be easily disabled and then not keep re-enabling itself when Windows forgets its own settings every couple weeks(!)

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        Sure.

        Then you get the occasional fun experience of a maintainer fucking up a package definition or two, and all of a sudden you can’t update your system or run a program because there’s a tangled mess of dependency conflicts and you get to spend the afternoon force reinstalling system libraries. Love ya’ Void :')

        Been trying NixOS which is great for avoiding that kind of thing, but it comes with it’s own set of annoyances. I really ought to just settle on a more stable distro like Debian lol.

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    So happy Windows is protecting us from spyware and malware.

    Now, we have to protect ourselves from Microsoft.

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      Yeah, I’ve been trying for over a decade to switch to Linux, but the pain points have been too much for me. This is it though, MS is making it impossible to continue with their spyware crap. I have to find a way to make the switch before 10 reaches end of life.

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        I tried the switch a while back and gave up. I tried a few months ago again with Mint and I haven’t looked back. Now I’m looking to change to another distro. Mint is the perfect Linux entry drug. Just install it on another drive if you have one kicking around so you don’t commit to destroying your windows install just yet.

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          I’ve tried Mint and Ubuntu and other flavours I can’t always remember, various different frontends, I’ve used Raspbian, octopi, I’ve installed alternative Android OSes, and none of them have alleviated the pain of installing an OS that fucks up basic things on a regular basis.

          Hell, just yesterday I was following a tutorial on how to install an audio amplifier on a retropie and it just failed. The audio test keeps going wrong in different ways each time I try. Every piece of hardware and software involved was known to the tutorial and matched to mine exactly, and still something unknown went wrong and I’ll have to hunt down the reason. Something to do with GPIONext.service not starting properly. It’s going to be a painful couple of hours mashing my face against this issue until I can figure it out, at the very least.

          Like, nice pitch but I’ve heard too many times “this flavour of Linux is the perfect beginner distro!” only to find that no, this platform has more rough edge than surface and a fresh coat of paint hasn’t changed that.

          All I’m saying is that if a ubiquitous AI spy is the future of Windows then I guess I am forced to deal with that pain if the only alternative I can envision is to walk into the sea and never return.

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        Same, Linux has always been a cool Idea but not worth going through the trouble of installing, now Microsoft is making the alternative way more trouble.

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          I went to Linux because a colleague next to me handed me a Fedora DVD after having issues with company Windows.

          I installed Linux many times on various hardware configurations since then.

          I don’t think I’ve ever had a pain installing it, perhaps once when Ubuntu had messed up installer with custom LUKS setup.

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        Yeah I tried installing it a year or two ago, but a lot of the hardware on my laptop (only machine atm) was not compatible. It was stuff like the touchpad not even being detected. I booted into the same install iso a few months ago and somehow it all worked.

        It’s a shit show sometimes, but it can surprise you

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      All this fuckery convinced me to start experimenting with Linux, just keeping windows on a backup PC for the couple of games that may not work…

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        I had been doing that since 2018 and this year I realized I hadn’t booted to Windows for years and uninstalled it.
        I’m not a Linux expert at all, I use the GUI for 99% of tasks and I’m having a great time.

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      From the MS website:

      Recall utilizes Windows Copilot Runtime to help you find anything you’ve seen on your PC. Search using any clues you remember or use the timeline to scroll through your past activity, including apps, documents, and websites.

      A “feature” coming to Windows 11. Essentially a keylogger on steroids… Powered by AI of course, because what isn’t these days.

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    I think it’s a cool idea in principle. I just don’t trust the company with my data even if they claim it is stored locally, but then again that’s why I don’t use their OS.

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    Even if this data wasn’t stolen by Microsoft (it will be) and sold to every advertiser everywhere (it WILL BE)

    Having screenshots taken of your PC every few seconds and then stored on your hard drive is going to nuke your storage in a matter of days, maybe weeks at the most

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      According to available information that I’ve come across, everything is processed on-device and encrypted and 25gb can store months of rewind data depending on how much and how you use your device. At that rate, a terabyte should store about a decade of history (I can’t think of anything you would need to go that far back for though).

      If security researchers don’t find sussy behavior where Recall sends back some sort of data beyond basic telemetry, there’s not really any higher of a privacy risk compared to using your computer as you currently do. Also you can disable it for certain applications and delete history when you want to (or disable the feature altogether). People are being really weird about this for reasons that have already been addressed.

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        Here’s the issue, though. It’s a corporation saying they pinky promise not to steal even more of your data, and I don’t trust them any more than I can purchase their company

        That is to say, not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a thousandth of a percent

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    I don’t get the hate for this. It’s just browser history but for your whole PC. The number of times this would have saved people from losing important documents or unfucking things they did wrong up to this point makes me wonder how they never thought of this before now.

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      The whole PC isn’t a browser, there are things that I don’t want saved every few seconds, with potentially sensitive details. Bank or medical info is a bit different than having a link to a webpage. And no, I don’t believe all this will stay local. Even if not straight away, it will eventually be sold to advertisers one way or another