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      Haha yeah imagine sucking dick like some kind of GAY.

      Snowden is one of the bravest and most heroic Americans alive today, and he is alive because he was smart enough to take precautions instead of letting himself get Epstein’d in some blacksite, like you want. What kinda idiot gets himself killed or imprisoned when he could be free? What the fuck kind of logic is it that says you have to submit to the judgement of a brazenly unjust and oppressive regime? Fuck that shit.

      It’s thanks to him that we’re at least aware of the movements of the enemy of the public that is the US state. Braver than any troop. Die mad about it.

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        There is nothing inherently gay about sucking dick. Snowden is a traitor, nothing heroic about him. Ohh so brave running to papa Putin after stealing US Intel. Brave would be facing the consequences of his actions because he felt what he was so important it was worth it. All this blacksite bullshit is a strawman. It’s far more likely he’s a Russian agent than it is he would have been disappeared and or killed.

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          There is nothing inherently gay about sucking dick.

          Oh, excuse me.

          Haha yeah imagine sucking dick like some kind of WOMAN.

          Snowden is a traitor, nothing heroic about him

          The traitors are the people in government brazenly violating the law and persecuting the heroes who reveal their crimes to the people. Real treason is treason against the people, treason against a government that is oppressing the people is heroism.

          All this blacksite bullshit is a strawman. It’s far more likely he’s a Russian agent than it is he would have been disappeared and or killed.

          Lol.

          Unlike you, Snowden was actually intelligent enough to know what would happen to him if he didn’t make arrangements for his freedom. I have no idea how it’s possible to be as naive as you, but I guess when you’re completely focused on licking the boot, you don’t have much awareness of anything other than that. In fact, your main problem with Snowden is that he made you aware of uncomfortable truths, you’d rather remain in comfortable ignorance so you don’t have to worry about the fact that you no longer have civil liberties. Just don’t move and you’ll never notice the chains, right? You’re too cowardly to face the truth.

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            Snowden is a little bitch who is a Russian asset. Zero respect for the coward. I could respect him if he was willing to pay the price to do what he thought was right, but he ran off and hid in a country that does far worse things to its citizens and is constantly attacking the US with disinformation campaigns to divide our country further and help a Putin bootlicker get elected.

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              I could respect him if he was willing to pay the price to do what he thought was right

              That’s stupid. There is literally no rational reason to do that. You haven’t given a single reason why he should have, other than that you personally would respect him more, which I don’t believe for a second. You’d just find some other excuse to hate him if he had. His real crime was expose you to a glimpse of reality.

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                Nothing he revealed was a shock, I was joking with my friends about them listening in on 2009 if not earlier. Prism was bad, and illegal and not a terrible thing that was brought to light, it did major damage to the USAs global reputation, deservedly so but that’s exactly what a Russian agent would hope to do. The real world impact of the leak was a net negative for Americans. It was great for foreign countries and terrorists. Globally it was a beneficial reveal. Had he been willing to go to jail for it the issue would have stayed in the for front and people would have put a lot of effort into getting him released, and I would have been a supporter of that initiative. I’m sure their similar programs running right now, you’d have to be a fool to think every single government is doing their damndist to find exploits and creating backdoors to spy/get Intel.

                I’m a bleeding heart liberal, and I want my country to be better than it is, I’m just not willing to prop up a Russian asset as a hero. I’m all for privacy and strong encryption, I groan and sometimes even bother to contact my representative when laws are being pushed that will weaken our protections.

                Russia is the antithesis of everything he supposedly stood for when leaking what he did.

                You go to jail for doing the right thing your a martyr, you run to Russia you’re a spy.

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                  Nothing he revealed was a shock, I was joking with my friends about them listening in on 2009 if not earlier.

                  Yeah, but you didn’t have proof.

                  The real world impact of the leak was a net negative for Americans.

                  Absolutely ridiculous. You just can’t distinguish between the state’s interests and the people’s interests. So what if the US’s global image is damaged? That doesn’t affect me. If anything, I’m glad, when the US’s global image was better it meant it could get away with getting involved in stupid imperialist wars that made life worse for everyone but the ruling class. Their interests are directly opposed to mine and hurting them helps me.

                  Had he been willing to go to jail for it the issue would have stayed in the for front and people would have put a lot of effort into getting him released, and I would have been a supporter of that initiative.

                  Again, this is literally the only reason you’ve given for why he should’ve done that, that you personally would’ve liked him more, which I don’t believe for a second. Nobody gives a shit what you think, certainly not enough to do something stupid and self-destructive. Snowden would’ve been an idiot not to protect himself.