• Socsa@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    Exactly. “Leftists” refuse to acknowledge that Russia is doing genocide in Ukraine.

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        Not necessarily, definitely not generally. But the party “Die Linke” in Germany ( basically translates to the left/leftists) has some strongly russophilic currents. I’d wager that’s the case in more countries than just Germany.

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      I don’t really think that’s true, lol. It may just be my own bias as a leftist that heavily condemns Russia’s invasion, but the vast majority of leftists condemn Russia invading, with some also condemning NATO’s historical treatment of the Russian Federation, leading to an unjust invasion in the first place.

      It’s kind of like people that say the US government caused 9/11 by being an absolute villian on a global stage, especially with respect to the Middle East. That’s not saying 9/11 was justified, but that the US government shouldn’t have held their foreign policy the way they have for centuries in the first place.

      Maybe I’m blind, but I really don’t see anyone saying Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is justified.

      Leftists are anti-Imperialism and Anti-Colonialism as a rule, so being pro-Imperialism is a decidedly not leftist take.

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        Yup, as a leftist Russia is an imperialist capitalist country doing the terrible things those countries do. These conflicts will always occur until we move on from this system. Every capitalist imperialist hegemon engages in these conflicts. Where I seem to agitate people is I don’t make exception for this for other hegemon countries like the US and alliances like NATO, as if this had no historical context and was inevitable.

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        I’m just basing this on what I see all over hexbear and lemmygrad in particular. I have, in fact, gotten a ban for “genocide denial” on hexbear for suggesting that Russia is perpetuating genocide against the Ukrainian people. The absolute irony.

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          I wouldn’t call those people lefties. That’s more like some twisted tankie ideology, based on some absurd notion that Russia is still communist.

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          11 months ago

          Russia has done some truly horrific acts to the people of Ukraine, but isn’t being classified as genocide by human rights groups.

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      I see, I just want to state that there’s an odd use of terminology you’ve used. I’m assuming that you’re referring to marxists, socialist, etc, as the “leftists”, I just wish to point out that they absolutely HATE liberals, like the Democratic Party and such. The liberals actually support Ukraine while those leftists are more “eh” on the subject.