obligatory I’m a German nurse living in Germany, but the German channels on lemmy don’t have as many members as this one, so I ask here.
When I work I like to do my job and then relax. To me, doing it the other way round is just stupid. I was never the kind of person that goes to work to socialize, I don’t need it and I strongly resent forced socialization.
For the last 2 years I’ve worked within the same hospital system and it’s clear to me now, nobody thinks like me: all my coworkers spend the first hour of the shift talking about their private lives, as they were looking for excuses not to work and expect anyone else to take care of patients. And because I’m the only one with this job mentality, it’s always me the one who works while the rest do nothing.
This is very frustrating and I’m now applying elsewhere, but it bothers me that my new workplace can turn out to be like this.
I’m also applying for office positions (no shifts) and wonder: does this happen there as well? Ideally I’d be completely responsible for my work alone.
I feel like a student at school again, when the teacher forced me to work in a group with the lazier ones and I ended up either doing most of the job or became as lazy as them. Why work when they don’t?
I don’t want to work with people who slow me down.
Why is work so important for you? I think you’ll find that a large number of people simply go through the motions because the stakes are low and their lives outside of work are more interesting. To them, it is an exchange of labor (that isn’t valued anyway) for (not enough) money. Why push yourself at work when it simply doesn’t matter? And what will drive you nuts later is that people from that “lazy” group will eventually end up promoted over you. The work is ultimately inconsequential, but the relationships built matter.
I don’t really have an answer for you other than to introspect a little bit on your work ethic.
They’re a nurse, you don’t think that’s important?
Unrelated to your main question: you can try !fragfeddit@feddit.org or !fragfeddit@feddit.de, and ensure you set language to Deutsch.
work is important to me because I like having a roof, food and healthcare. I don’t have the luxury of not having to work.
Are you saying that work is a place to dump your issues or what you did on the weekend to the point of not doing your job? This is something I find very odd. I don’t want to work with people with this mindset.
Are you advising me to ignore patients when they call? cause that’s what they do and if a job is simply inconsequential, why bother?
Are you also advising me to listen to them when they rant against greens (an ecologist party in Germany) or migrants? It’s tiring and closeted racist.
I don’t see how my work ethic is the wrong one, or how yours would be better. Better if I want to become a careerist? absolutely. Better if I want to feel good with myself? absolutely not.
You live in Germany, you actually have the luxury to not work. Everyone gets a roof, food and healthcare, even without working.
Also, this is not an argument against your co-workers: if they do less than you, isn’t your job safe then and everything is good?
Then you should stop working, because they will be everywhere to some degree.
If your work is done, that’s exactly what you do. Or if you’re in the process of doing something else/handling another patient, idk how it works exactly. It’s the responsibility of management to ensure that all patients get treated, not yours. You can and should of course report when this doesn’t happen and you notice it.
answered like a 12 year old… hope you grow up
So are you actually looking for advice and opinions from different mindsets or is this just an opportunity to vent and belittle anyone who doesn’t have your “ethics”. You claim you’re a smart person but you completely missed the whole point of those group projects in school.
there’s asking genuinely and there’s asking maliciously and writing absolute nonsense ‘You live in Germany, you actually have the luxury to not work. Everyone gets a roof, food and healthcare, even without working.’ like the member you defend.
If you consider this an example of a person worth having a discussion with, kudos to you, I’ll pass.
But do please enlighten me, what’s the whole point of those group projects in school?
The scariest part about this whole thing, you’re a nurse. You know, a job that takes compassion and understanding, the ability to work with other professions and a team setting. Where you’re not the soul care-provider for a patient but work in unison with others, this was the profession you chose to go down after constantly hating working with other people in school?!?
You stated, “When I work I like to do my job and then relax. To me, doing it the other way round is just stupid.” This is purely a “YOU” problem. Obviously other people are still getting their job done, I guessed you also missed the “Hare and Tortoise Race” meaning in elementary school as well. (in case you need it, you’re the hare sitting at the end of the race fuming and puffing upset)
This is your post, people have come on here to contribute and engage. A simple level of decorum is expected but instead it’s hostility all the way down. You could’ve dispelled the previous members comment with factual information but you took the time to belittle instead of disengaging. You’re a nurse with social anxiety, did no one in your entire time of training discuss bed manners? How did you avoid any actual understanding of what a nurses day is like (socializing) until it was too late? You literally just had to have one actual conversation with someone to find that out.
If socializing and navigating people was easy for you, this wouldn’t be a problem. Again, this is a weakness that the group projects hoped to tackle. Learning how to engage and speak to people, finding out what their strengths and weaknesses are, learning how to encourage someone in their work versus constant discouragement because “you’re just not doing it the way I want you to do it”. Having the ability to get over yourself and let the group finish at the GROUP’s pace, not your own. Is it a control issue? Are you just not confident that anything will get done unless it’s the way you see it? Has nothing ever gotten done without your direct input in this world? Is there a way to resolve the inner-group conflicts without the need to involve outside interference (teacher/management).
Those are all reflection points that occur in an active group project. You did yourself and the others in those projects a disservice by not recognizing and addressing them. “the teacher forced me to work in a group with the lazier ones and I ended up either doing most of the job or became as lazy as them”, maybe the teacher was hoping to hone some leadership skills in you they saw. Instead it was an “all my way or nothing” decision like you’re constantly making now. You also reinforced in the other students, with your mentality, that they could control the narrative and either have you do the work or no one does the work (which might be happening now in your workplace). Again, that’s a socializing short coming that you’re not picking up on.
You do realize socializing is more than just gossip and political leanings right? That’s just the facade of socializing, people just want to be heard and know you’re willing to think of them as more than just another worker drone and they actually matter as a human being who’s navigating this crazy world. It’s part of being a team, respect for the individual, the small human personality stuff. I’m assuming you don’t care about that though, it’s just too much hassle with your short comings and how you’ve wired your brain.
I do imagine there’s a perfect client out there for you, someone who doesn’t want to talk and just needs you there for the job and only wants one full-time nurse. It would be like winning the lottery chances of luck, but I would rather see you and the person you’re treating happy if you can’t get over your issues.
tl;dr Good luck. If you can’t read the passage above or reflect on it after wanting an explanation, then this is just a post for you to complain.
I see you are incapable of answering a straightforward question and prefer to rant in the void to feel good.
fine it it helps you feel good but… weird.
You’re not seeing anything but what you want to see lol, can’t even be bothered to read a couple of paragraphs because it’s too hard (I doubt you’re that hard of a worker with your attitude). The question was answered with an extensive explanation because you said you don’t understand. Like before, you just choose to ignore it and again belittle anyone responding instead of the context of what they wrote so this is pointless. Have a good day!
Because ethics, morals and values, dude.
There is now a very common and mainstream change in approach to how those subjects are viewed (for the better). One could argue that at some (vaguely gestures throughout time) point in our history there was a “social contract” but due to greed and consolidation of wealth, it’s no longer the standard.
Some would argue that “work-ethic”, which benefits the ruling class more, is antithesis to “family-values” at this point in time. I would argue that the terms are abused too often for actual debate, what we admire is dedication and focus regardless if you’re in an office or raising a barn. Corporation loyalty and exploitative consent often gets mixed up into the definition which the majority don’t agree to so there’s push back.
Who? And they’d be wrong lol
oh ok, love the explanation and the complete blindness to everyone who’s commented on here lol. You definitely just excrete an aura of an ethical and moral person.
Ahh the sound of someone who knows they’re wrong, ringing crisp and clear over the rainforest treetops…
Yup. I only do the work I’m paid for– and I know what wages I’m supposed to be making if not for the capitalists suppressing a livable wage in damned near every field in the West right now. If I’m supposed to be making mid-upper five figures, if my wage rate is supposed to be between the 60k and 80k ranges, and I’m only pulling 45? Well, you’re only getting 45k worth of work out of me regardless of what you say the workload is.
You will never see me slaving for c-suites, regardless of field, regardless of essentiality. Remind me of Primus’s “HOINFODAMAN”, I won’t do it.