Oops, my mistake. I think I read that she represents Georgia and mistook that to mean more than is actually the case. I’ll edit that and thanks for correcting me! At least that makes it a bit better if not exactly great.

I have no idea how/why some people decided that she’s the exemplar that should be representing them.

If he can follow up on even a portion of what he promises, a 2nd Trump presidency will bring the USA to a halt at multiple levels like a car hitting a reinforced wall. The best version of a Trump presidency is him raging daily as he’s blocked constantly by legal challenges and bureaucratic measures thus getting nothing done. The worst version is that he succeeds in his goals, reforms the USA into a right-wing autocracy and destroys things like checks/balances and separation of church and state.

No. You said “Biden is great”. I said, “I acknowledge he’s done some good, I still disagree, and here’s a concise list of reasons why. In spite of that, I’m willing to get on board to fight Trump”. You replied (and this is an exact quote): “I talk about how Biden’s done great, and you talk about how he’s not Trump”, completely disregarding that I directly addressed why I don’t think Biden is great. I did NOT just talk about how he’s not Trump.

How am I arguing in bad faith? That is the sequence of events, and it’s easily confirmed. I’m also not calling you out just because you didn’t watch the video. I’m saying you didn’t watch AND disregarded that I explicitly gave you the video as a source for my disagreement with you to instead say I focus on “not Trump”. Now you’ve doubled down with a response that paints me as arguing in bad faith and linking that to insults/abuse. I never insulted you. Disagreeing is not inherently a slur or abusive, nor is pointing out the holes in an rebuttal. If you don’t have time to watch the vid that’s understandable but wait to respond until you do or at least don’t say I only focused on “not Trump” when that’s provably not the case.

So you won’t spend 90 seconds to watch the criticisms laid out, but you’ll take the time to tell me they are all either nonexistent or invalid?

Biden has done some good things. I disagree that he’s great. If you want specifics, the first 90 seconds of that Sanders video is him detailing several grievances I agree with in a clear, concise and fairly complete list. However, to quote Sanders: “But while we may have our disagreements with Biden, it’s important to take a minute to think about what a Trump presidency would mean to our country, and in fact the world.”

I know what needs to be done which is why I stopped encouraging/supporting 3rd party or undecided voting months ago. I could go on a lot longer, but that’s the bottom line. I’ll join the effort to stop Trump - just don’t ask me to agree that my concerns are invalid or have been adequately addressed.

Historical misinformation spreads most readily simply by being repeated and undisputed.

This is admittedly a bit nitpickey, but I specifically said you address misinformation with facts and sources to back up those facts. That’s the opposite of repeating and/or letting it go undisputed.

Disagreeing with someone civilly acknowledges the validity of their point or position.

No. You can say, emphatically, “you’re wrong” without also calling someone idiotic, etc.

is “Every political position, even the one I’m part of, has flaws” really that bad in your eyes?

I’ve said right from the start that I agree with some points you make, and I stand by that. Being aware that everyone is wrong sometimes is undeniably a virtue.

That’s the right approach, honestly.

Thank you :) I appreciate that, and respect that you’re willing to give me that even if we have had our disagreements today.

how am I supposed to respond to a blatant bad faith effort to spread historical misinformation?

With facts and sources to back up those facts. You can disagree with someone in a civil manner. If you actually care about my point about delivery, please watch that Bernie video.

Your meme does indeed make fun of all quadrants, but I used it because it’s an example of the type of the insults. And let’s be honest, there’s evidence in those other posts that some of those opinions are not JUST satire for you. I mean, you called me out for being naively kind and employing “flower power”, aka chances are you think I’m one of the useful idiots.

Aside from that, like I said - I can’t stop you from insulting people. Your arguments seem to point to a belief in your right to do so. I don’t think I would force you even if I could since I usually try to convince people instead. If I didn’t change your mind, maybe I will change the minds of some others who may read this.

Just today?

What did I say about being able to read your post history?

• “But hey, since when are fascists internally consistent?”
• “Democracy is. I didn’t realize that this metaphor was getting too complex for you.”
• Here’s your post from today where you call LibLefts “useful idiots who serve above (authoritarians) only to be purged when the revolution is complete”. You also say they support terrorism, and their only solution to community violence is lynch mobs.
• “It doesn’t matter. They don’t believe in democracy, much less convincing people. They’re vanguardist fascists, after all.”
• “Wow. Literally saying the quiet part out loud - “As long as the Democrats are not 100% in line with my views, it’s okay to endorse inaction and the takeover of a fascist regime on the pretext that the Democrats Aren’t Good Enough™””
• “I’m used to tankie whinging about how they can’t support fascist regimes without being called out.”
• “The literal opposite of the truth. But I guess the guilt of having MLs backstab the leftist opposition so Fascist Spain could win hurts your point, huh?”
• “Oh, they see the connection. They just want Republicans in office. They don’t give a fuck about the suffering of minorities, they just want the worst possible option in power so they can feel smug about “not supporting the system”.”

Those are all examples from just the last 2 hours, across multiple threads. The tragic thing is, I probably agree with a lot of your points. You really do appear to want to deliver those points with as much dehumanization and dismissal as possible however.

I can read your post history. I’m getting tired making the same point but insults are, as near as I can tell, your go-to and I don’t even know if you try anything else. You’ve insulted people disagreeing with you several times just today. I mean, look at how dismissive you are (kindness doesn’t work, flower power) of me and Senator Sander’s approach of using calmly delivered facts to win over those who will likely decide the upcoming election. It’s an attempt to make sure people are convinced you are a true defender of democracy and that your modus operandi of attacks are the only reasonable way to do it properly.

But whatever. I’ve made my point, given a solid example of what I think is a far more attractive approach that has worked for me and others, and that’s all I wanted to add to the conversation. Feel free to reiterate that I’m a idiotic hippy who will usher in unending fascism.

“I’m allowed to call people idiots, fascists, etc. basically daily because I can justify it.” Everyone willing to dehumanize and denigrate others has what they believe to be validating reasons. I can’t stop you from trying to win people over by insulting everyone who disagrees, but I wanted to be a voice asking for kinder, calmer discourse a la the Bernie video I posted.

Given the attitudes on this platform I’m bracing for the downvotes, but I genuinely wish you and others like you would stop trying to (nearly daily) insult/shame others into voting the way you want. You should watch this video by Bernie Sanders about winning votes for Biden on merit and logic. Note that he never uses insults, and the reasoned arguments Sanders has been making for months convinced me to stop telling people to vote 3rd party months ago. I’m now willing to ask people to vote Biden in spite of my reservations - not because Biden is great but because Trump absolutely cannot be allowed to win.

You and others with the same views could try that approach as opposed to reflexively calling everyone who brings up concerns or expresses reservations fascists, complete idiots, bots, and so on. I have no clue why so many people on Lemmy believe that incessantly attacking everyone who disagrees with them with the most extreme accusations they can muster makes their position welcoming or attractive. I won’t speak for others but I was won over by calm reason, not being called slurs every time I opened Lemmy.

I almost never buy multiplayer-focused games anymore. Of course not all gamers are shitty, but enough are to matter. Having left those games behind I can see how they were taking more joy from my life than they added. If friends want to do private co-op that’s cool, but it’s also rarer now that we’re all older.

As far as sales go, I love playing a year or two behind new releases. Patched games at a discount ftw and timing doesn’t matter in single-player games.

Got to respect the decision to just step away instead of settling for mediocrity.

I totally missed that when I wrote it.

Every time I get close it says “Press X to Interact” but I don’t think my stats are high enough yet. I’m grinding on unattended toddlers until I level a few times.

If the senior citizens near-ruling the USA from the SCOTUS find that making unpopular and legally questionable decisions is exhausting then they are free to retire. People will care a lot less about luxury RV’s, free vacations, flags, etc. when they’re no longer steering things like national reproductive rights and who actually has to obey the law.

I upvoted, but I wanted to add a few thoughts. See, I understand what you’re saying in that US history has been littered with acts ranging from questionable to horrible the entire time. However as a Canadian some of my most treasured people, both personal acquaintances and public figures, are/were American. Even though I criticize policies US policies (a lot more recently), I still feel a kinship to Americans and I like a lot of you.

I think America has an accountability problem where a very few people in power are allowed to COMPLETELY misrepresent the positions of their constituents and make national/state decisions that outrage huge portions of the population (often for money’s sake). In the 20-odd years I’ve been an adult I’ve noticed this about the Iraq war, the 2008 financial crisis + wealth inequality in general, climate, health care, and now of course the situation in Gaza. There’s almost no meaningful consequences applied when leaders act against the wishes of the populace or even your own laws. At worst some are not elected again and have to live on whatever millions they could amass during their years in power. Some say Americans get the government they deserve, but checks and balances don’t work if the few people empowered to check and balance are on the same corrupt/unethical page.

So I’m equally suspicious of anyone who thinks that America has, as a nation, been the greatest country in the world the entire time. I would simultaneously argue though that the US is home to some of the greatest people and that a large % of the population is at least as “good” as most other countries. Of course there are genuine shitheads in America, but that’s universal to every nation IMO. The real problem in my eyes is that your leaders have not been forced to actually put the “representation” in representative democracy. If you read all that, thanks for giving me your time.