I just said, form factor. Anbernic rg35xxsp is the closest you can get to a Gameboy SP. Sure you could argue your Phone controller is far better but these GBA games where designed with the hardware and form factor they have in mind.

If you are using a device to run multiple emulators, arguing the form factor is better than a phone in a single instance (Gameboy SP) is backwards. It’s like you’re conceding that a phone is better in every other way; which it absolutely is.

Your old iPhone4 can play N64 fine? Show it. Prove it here that your iPhone 4 can play n64 games without frameskip. no stutters, no sound jittering. Heck start with Super Mario Kart, then Mario 64, then what the hell, lets add Starwars Rogue Squadron in there.

Because I am pretty much confident you are gonna have frameskips enabled just to even make the game playable.

An iPhone 4 from 2010 has 4 times the memory and twice the processing power required by an N64 emulator, it’s more than sufficient. keeping in mind your original point was the cost of a smartphone capable of running said emulators was beyond the cost of these handhelds… Which is just not true; especially when a device from 14 years ago can do it.

For the same money you can get a used smartphone from the last 10 years that runs all the games your rg35xxsp can and is also a phone. A person who has limited funds (your strawman) would be better off with a phone instead of these things.

Because 180 to 700 bucks SD card you are referring to is a top of the line SD card meant for more powerful devices like the SteamDeck. You can get cheaper ones for less and even then 1tb is just overkill for that.

Most phones have sufficient storage to carry all the games you need. But, when people argue the value of an SD card they talk about carrying all the games released on a console and to do that you need more than a 256gb card.

Also you are totally missing the point here. With a phone, your storage is shared not just for games but with everything else. From videos you downloaded for offline use on your Netflix/Primevideo/HBO/Disney+ bullshit down to your offline music from Spotify and Youtube Music.

And your seemingly forgetting phones have the internet, I can just download any game I want wherever I am. Rather than storing all of them all the time just in case you might want them.

How many games do you need at one time anyways, you clearly don’t want all of them because a large enough SD card to fit them is just overkill. But you aren’t satisfied with 100gb or so? So, what arbitrary amount have you decided you need to justify the addition of an SD card?

Seriously, how much storage is sufficient and why? (keeping in mind you can only play one game at a time)…

Also not to mention these devices have SD cards bundled already so you don’t really need to buy one unless you opted for more storage to store more games on the go.

And for the same cost I can get a used phone bundled with a camera, internet, console, sms, email and shit load more features. But you get a sd card, what a deal!

Pretty much everyone has a phone already that can do what this can, and your best argument for buying one of these things is the lack of an SD card. But in the same comment you also argue that a large SD card is overkill.

This just screams to cops, pull me over!

We had reason to believe you are on meth, so we are going to perform a search of your vehicle and perform like 8 drug tests on you.

Nope. I don’t carry keys. A phone, a minimalist wallet, and mini handheld fit with plenty of room to spare.

So you have plenty of room, but simultaneously cannot fit a clip-controller in your pocket? I take it you don’t carry a back pack either, that would just be ridiculous lol.

Such a weird argument “If you don’t carry keys for some reason, you can instead fit a handheld console in your pocket” or you can just have a backpack or use one of these things (which also fits into your pocket and will allow you to turn your phone into a much better gaming device):

https://www.amazon.com.au/Razer-Kishi-Controller-Android-Passthrough/dp/B086X8DHN2/ref=lp_8134188051_1_12_mod_primary_new?pf_rd_p=d367c4db-0dd4-4f48-b46e-9e049ff40af9&pf_rd_r=AMBMY2XHFP4TZXJ3RRAY&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D

There are plenty of devices like this and combined with your phone you can now play a lot more games, at higher resolutions with upscaling to combat the lack of dithering and get better frame rates… Oh and it will fit in your pocket and will be able to connect to a new phone when you get one, its future proofed.

It still isn’t as cheap as using what you already own. Especially when what you are purchasing is essentially a downgrade.

Ok so you ignored half of what I said in my previous comment, just going to assume you are admitting you have no real argument when it comes to these points. But moving on…

it fully boots in 5 seconds, there is no bloat to speak of.

So does an app.

it holds PSX, N64, Dreamcast, SNES, GBA, GB and MAME games.

Not PS2/Xbox/GameCube era consoles/games… Why not?

And it didn’t cost me $100, I paid $50, an almost insignificant outlay.

Not including the cost of the sd card right. Meanwhile a phone you already own has $0 outlay and does more.

While certainly my ROG phone plus gamesir is enough to even emulate this gen’s handheld games. It cannot beat playing a gba game on an Anbernic rg35xxsp.

Could you give a reason?

Second is that some owns a low tier or a very old phone and they don’t want to throw it away because it still works perfectly fine.

My old iPhone 4 from 2010 could run n64 emulators just fine, low tier phones from the last 10 years can do pretty much everything this thing can do and a used one is definitely cheaper… Additionally if this strawman you have invented cannot afford a phone from the last 10 years they definitely cannot afford this thing.

Then there is that storage issue. Some newer phones today no longer have an sd card slot for expandable storage.

An SD card that can store all the PSP/N64/Dreamcast games would have to have more than 1tb of storage and cost anywhere from 180 to 700 bucks online… What world are you living in that this is a viable solution to the poor man who cannot afford a second hand phone.

What you are trying to argue here is that a niche luxury device is a solution to someone with limited income, and you are doing it with a straight face whilst arguing with someone that presents a cheaper/free option. Do you see an issue with that?

A d-pad with tactile buttons

What console controller doesn’t have that? Plus they tend to fit your hands. This thing looks like a portable hand cramp.

a non-android (or iOS) system that takes micro sd cards are pretty good reasons.

In what way does andriod or iOS limit your ability to run emulators? Micro SD cards are nice, but total over kill for some N64/Dreamcast roms.

Maybe for PSP games but only if you wanted all of them all the time, and that totals over 1.4 TB of storage, an SD card that can store all that is anywhere from double to 5 times the price of this handheld… What a great feature!

These retro handhelds are a self-contained package that can easily slip into a pocket.

Do you slip it into your pocket next to your phone?

And the functionality is very good. Not sure why you assume it isn’t.

Its functionality is fine, but your phone can do everything this thing can do and more for free since you already own it. The best argument people can make is about the controls which is such an easy problem to solve and often can be done with devices you already have; This $100 thing is an overly niche gimmick.

So you walk around with your keys, phone, wallet and a console in your pockets at all times… just carry a bag or a backpack.

If you really do carry all that shit with you i can imagine you look like this

Well, I have to either attach it to my phone with a clip of some kind (which makes for sometimes questionable ergonomics or for a very wobbly, insecure setup that makes me fear I’ll drop my phone) Or I have to put my phone down on something, which for the sort of thing I use devices like this for just isn’t doable.

Personally I never felt the use of a clip or some other mounting system was that bad or wobbly, i certainly don’t feel it’s so bad that I had to spend money on a device with limited functionality (or a downgrade) just to manage that problem. Seems like backwards thinking or a bad solution to a problem that doesn’t really exist.

Which is exactly the point I’m making. I want to split that battery life up between devices, so my phone is less likely to die on me. I can deal without a handheld game console but if my phone taps out it’s more of a problem.

Which leads to my point. Why did you spend so much money on a device with such functionality if you are worried about using it? For the cost of one of these handhelds you can buy multiple battery packs/portable chargers and actually use the expensive phone you carry around with you at all times.

Honestly if your phone dies that fast check your battery as it could be dying.

Very nice!

I asked why someone should buy one of these things instead of using what you already have, and every reason given was poorly thought out and was unable to explain or justify the purchase.

Seems like the target audience are idiots with spare cash, who are impressed by glowing analogue sticks and poor functionality.

The predecessor weighs more than a PS4 controller, costs more than a controller, doesn’t stay charged as long as either a phone or a controller, has a low resolution screen, less storage and it cannot run as many games/emulators as a modern phone.

But yes its money well spent and you dont have to carry about a controller which weighs around half of your hand hold… What a deal!

I’ll keep playing games for free with better graphics and a bigger library.

Some of us like to put our phones away or turn them off entirely during our leisure.

So you need to spend $99 on a hand hold because you dont like your phone? If it’s the notifications you hate put your device on aeroplane mode instead; just saved you some money.

Also, I don’t want touch screen controls when playing ps1 games.

What is wrong with connecting a PS4/5 controller?

External Bluetooth controllers are always a pain.

In what way? I use them and it works just fine. Plus, I already had one so it cost me nothing to use it with my phone.

those clip-on ones are always awful.

Again, how? The ones I have seen used work perfectly fine, plus there is a large number of devices to choose from; I am sure they aren’t all awful.

Plus it’s splitting the battery life between two devices, nothing bugs me more than using my phone for everything only to be shocked that the battery dies twice a day.

Most people carry a charger or battery pack with them anyways so that is not a problem. Besides aren’t you already powering two devices when you carry this thing around with you… I’m gonna guess you have Bluetooth headphones too, so that’s 3 devices now.

I’m worried about the boys of my community who think that they could become women because they’re effeminate, care, and they like wearing makeup, and they like wearing drag.

Ah, so attacking someone and making a scene is going to fix this how…?

Yeah. So, I Bluetooth a console controller which works perfectly fine and is cheaper. But you can also buy attachments for your phone that turns into a controller if you really want.

Am I missing something, I don’t see why are these hand helds becoming so popular?

I’m running a PS2 emulator on my phone and playing God of War 2 with upscaling and anti-aliasing; why would you spend money on something a phone can do for free?

Minecube

That summons my Dark Magician.

Square just reported an underwhelming quarter, so I am not gonna be surprised if they announce a remaster/re-release of an old classic to milk their fan base.

Nothing wrong with that of course, but I get the impression it will be a cheap and rushed remaster, with simple upscaling and maybe some built in cheats; $40 please! ($60 with the pre-order bonuses).

That all said, if it does turn into a complete remake I am sure they will turn the story into a convoluted mess with alternate dimensions and time travel.