What is he going to do? Say no to Israel? Lol

I remember watching the news interviews at the time, and some of the people who voted to Exit said they didn’t really want to Exit they just wanted to put out a protest vote against Corbyn.

You are literally talking out of your arse. “Some” people may have been protesting Corbyn… not saying much?.. about it. But Cameron was the face of remain. He was the logical target for a protest vote. And if you really did watch the interviews around the time of Brexit and especially the exit polls after the election you would know that most people said some nonsense about “sovereignty” but the next most common and incredibly obvious reason was immigration. The idea that is was primarily or even substantially about Corbyn is completely ludicrous.

So go ahead and single issue vote on something that will get you more of what you don’t want.

1. I am actually British. 2. I would vote for Harris and have literally said as much throughout this conversation.

I am just saying I understand their perspective and pointing out that this “Trump is worse” response completely ignores the overwhelming moral case for opposing a genocide. It is pathetic as a response to what people are saying. It’s myopically election focused at a time when people are dying with full US backing.

Yes, Clinton was a shitty candidate who I predicted losing because everyone hates her so much… but in the end there were a lot of people who are now worse off because they decided it would be better to vote for Stein.

So you predicted she would lose, and many other people did, and the DNC did not listen. Then some people didn’t see the gravity of the situation and made bad voting decisions, absolutely. But they are just random people who may be more engaged with work and paying their bills than they are with making unintuitive voting decisions. Partially their fault, mainly the dems fault

Yeah but when the single issue is genocide? I don’t know, I can understand the moral argument that is always wrong to support that. I can understand not wanting your tax dollars to pay for the death and destruction we’ve been watching for the past year.

I understand your point, don’t agree with single issue voting in most cases and I also wouldn’t vote third party or encourage anyone to do so BUT I can see the point and lecturing people about Trump does nothing whatsoever to address it.

Look at Brexit: most of those were protest votes against Labour, not actual votes for Brexit.

Lol I can only assume you are not British. Protesting Labour in the 6th year of a conservative government for… what exactly? There are a lot of stupid things that led to the Brexit vote but this is not one of them.

Every pregnant woman in the US is at higher risk now because of those protest votes.

No. Because the democrats did not win over enough voters to take the presidency. They ran a candidate people didn’t like that much and lost. That is on THEM.

Ha stupid Palestinians not wanting to vote for someone who promised to continue arming the state that is killing their families! Wow what idiots. Do they want a Trump presidency? What dumb dumbs, they clearly don’t understand democracy: you vote for us otherwise it’ll get even worse.

Pressuring their preferred candidate to change their policies by saying they’ll vote third party because of this issue? NO! The only way is slavish loyalty, that way they’ll know they can do what they want and it won’t affect their vote share.

Jokes aside: I do think Harris is better on this issue (and people should still vote for her) but surely you can see how this disingenuous criticism really side steps the issue. What if it was your family, so you tried to push change on this issue with your only tangible democratic power and then some jumped up boot licker starts lecturing you on how this is actually stupid because the other guy will kill your family FASTER? I would tell that person to fuck all the way off.

Uh huh. So no defense of what’s happening, just “that’s the way it is.” Well great. No problem then

So because Iran and Israel have nukes, Israel can’t directly fight their enemy, and that means they have to keep playing whack a mole with proxies, like, forever? All while the “collateral damage” and “accidents” are mounting and more and more innocent people die?

There will always be new “moles” popping up, eliminating Hamas creates Hamas 2 and even if you somehow eliminate Hezbollah there will be Hezbollah 2: maximum bollah. Then you will have to fight them and there will be more whoopsies and more kids end up in bodybags. And then I hope you’re ready because since we’re not fighting the actual enemy but we successfully stopped Hamas 2, guess what we have now?

Seriously. The only result of this is death and the most likely people to die are innocent Palestinian, Lebanese and Israeli citizens.

I think Iran should stop funding terrorists.

They won’t. So yet again, do you think Israel should go to war with Iran? Why waste time fighting proxies?

So do you think Israel should go to war with Iran? Or are you happy with innocent Palestinians and Lebanese paying the price instead?

But I will say, when Israel does something, the blame lies with Israel. The blood of the dead is on Israel’s hands and it will never wash off.

The Guardian is a good source!

Are you addressing this comment to people who think Iran is… good? You’re right that they are not nice.

I think I understand your point: Iran is just in it to hurt Israel and doesn’t actually care about Palestinians.

But then isn’t the enemy Iran? How is killing some Lebanese child alongside a “terrorist” going to stop the next attack? Iran will just continue funding, surely? Probably with more willing recruits.

Obviously nobody wants war with Iran, I get that. So, and I know this is crazy, but maybe this is a problem you can’t murder your way out of? Just an idea.

God of the Dead from Hades!

He is a coward. He got off easy with Biden taking the attention away from him, but at the Harris debate, his stupidity and ignorance was on full display for everybody to see. He would embarrass himself again and he knows it.

She should get the air time even if Trump is too much of a coward to show up. Let him seethe about it.

I’m confused why you were so outraged by the use of human shields at first and now when I send examples you all of a sudden don’t seem to care. You didn’t even mention the second example yet.

Ah so using human shields is OK all of a sudden? What about the second example? Don’t worry, I can find more if you like

On one hand you have fighters shielding themselves behind civilians

You’re right, this is disgusting…

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/14/israeli-forces-in-gaza-use-civilians-as-human-shields-against-possible-booby-traps

And this is too. Do these people have no morals? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/23/human-shielding-in-action-israeli-forces-strap-palestinian-man-to-jeep

They also said (different episode I think) that while they’re enjoying their lives (e.g. at a concert), knowing that Palestinians are suffering makes it better. Can you imagine being that much of an evil cunt?

Clip is in this video: https://youtu.be/j_uOJAKbGpg?si=ojFCDchAJw_B7Anb

There is more than enough legal reason to justify stopping sales to Israel but the rules are not applied equally: https://www.npr.org/2024/03/26/1240857410/how-do-leahy-laws-apply-to-u-s-support-for-israel

So it seems like they choose not to and I’m not sure if there’s a justification for that which isn’t fucking atrocious

I think you could just ask something like “what are some of your favourite world cuisines excluding the obvious ones?” and then explain what you mean.

Apologies though, I guess this is just because it’s not your first language, what you said makes sense it’s more the connotations of the phrase. I think someone also posted a gif making a similar joke. Probably the best straight up alternative without the connotations would be “world food/cuisine.”

North Korean! Would love to try it but I guess similar to South Korean food?

I don’t want to go through all but some of the more interesting ones:

Ethiopian - delicious stew/curry type food with this fermented flatbread stuff that almost smells a bit like beer. Way better than this makes it sound, lol

Vietnamese - if you like Chinese food you will love it. It’s somewhere between Thai and Chinese. They have an awesome beef noodle soup called pho

Jamaican - my family is partially from here so bias but jerk chicken is worth a mention alone. Very well spiced and usually super juicy chicken. Meat and rice type of stuff. But ackee and saltfish is interesting too, very salted cod mixed with this subtle flavoured fruit that looks a bit like eggs? Again better than it sounds.

Moroccan - If you’re interested in Egyptian food (I also have no idea what that would be, lol) Morrocan is probably a good recommendation. They have a dish called tajine which is a well spiced chicken stew, they cook it in a special pot I think

Mexican! - I know it’s obvious but in Europe Mexican restaurants are very basic. Tacos, burritos etc. But there are so many amazing dishes like mole (chocolate and chilli sauce, fucking delicious) that always get missed. There’s one called queso relleño (?) That is basically like a very rich Bolognese wrapped in cheese and FRIED. Probably best not to eat too often. But maybe you guys in the US get more authentic Mexican food anyway

Also, saying “ethnic foods” comes across a little odd. Makes you sound like a 50 year old white guy who’s never left his home town and isn’t so sure about all this weird food these strange brown people eat. Nothing wrong with being white or culturally insulated of course, but probably not the look you were going for. Might explain the downvotes.

Ok cool, then yeah we agree!