What matter is context. Intentionally leaving it out is garbage.

As is not saying which ballots you’re referring to. In this case, I assume its the presidential election where they are playing the role of spoiler?

Yes, it absolutely makes sense to legally challenge those.

But “some democrats” is just as garbage and useless a comment as “people are saying”.

Edited to add: This is also definitively and explicitly not the same thing as saying ban all third parties.

Nonsense. Utter nonsense.

OK, so claims of randos on the internet.

NOT any single elected democrat.

Got it.

If you talk to some democrats they believe we should ban third parties.

I have never seen this argument from any democrat before.

Questioned their legitimacy in participating as a candidate in a presidential election? Yes.

But banning third parties? Absolute hogwash, I’ve never once seen that.

I think you should look at those numbers again. Stein took enough votes to make up the difference.

The 2016 election disagrees.

The person who said that is part of Stein’s campaign, their goal is for Harris to lose and give Trump a win.

As much as I hate what Israel is doing, that’s completely unrelated to what the Jill Stein and the Green Party are trying to do.

Read the FAQ and you’ll get the details.

Its not just musk they are poking fun at, but also the PAC system.

Wall-E is pretty amazing overall, for kids and parents. There are so many things in the movie that as my kids get older, I get to explain more and more what they are referencing.

The green party’s goal is a trump win.

Sawant’s speech, introducing Jill Stein. Emphasis mine:

We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic, we could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan. And the polls show that most likely Harris cannot win the election without Michigan.”

That’s who you want to vote for?

The person trying to give Trump a win?

Just be honest with yourself and vote for Trump then. Or, you know, place a vote for Harris and not have republican fascism win.

Jill Steins platform is nonsense. She has done nothing to accomplish any of it, only shows up for presidential elections, and one of her people literally said that their goal was to try and get Harris to lose battleground states for a Trump win as they know Jill Stein won’t.

Said at a Jill Stein event as part of a speech.

Jill Stein is a tool of the republican party and nothing more.

I suggest you find a third party that isn’t completely garbage.

A vote for Stein is supporting Trump.

That’s her purpose. She’s nothing but a tool of the right wing. Democrats are left of Jill Stein.

Especially considering Jill Stein is a tool of the right wing. Democrats are left of Jill Stein.

Then get involved in a 3rd party that works against the republican fascists and coordinates with Democrats for ballot access like WFP.

Whining about “the duopoly” and not voting will just move things further right.

They seem pretty cool!

Unfortunately I can’t eat them, since the one thing they can’t seem to certify on is gluten… May be pretty good gifts though.

What I consider her is a republican asset, to be clear. Which is why she works so closely with so many far right republicans, and is specifically trying to pull votes in battleground states to give Trump the win. Lets be honest here - even her own people say thats the goal.

And I don’t think any state is really non-contested at this point. I will continue to support expanding social programs and shutting down the far right at every turn, and now that I know WFP is in my state enough, I’ll be supporting them at every point I can.

I also won’t turn a blind eye to someone intentionally trying to get the far right in power. Which is what Jill Stein and the Green Party are doing.

Thats wonderful!

I still want to make sure people know what Jill Stein is, and don’t throw away their vote to her as the republicans she collaborates with want.

Your mind won’t be changed, you’re going to keep saying the same stuff, I get that.

I mention it for others who read this thread. Working Families Party is a great example of a third party that actually is working for change, and collaborates to stop the far right.

The Green Party, and Jill Stein, is actively working in a way to the advantage of the far right, as well as blatantly working directly with them. Which makes her… dun dun dun… a spoiler candidate.

So yeah, I’ll keep repeating it.

Next stage - “What else can the same ESP32 do?”

Again, you can keep lying to yourself and others, but I won’t.

They are ignored because they are spoiler candidates. Because they do nothing when its not Presidential election time.

Because Jill Stein is a spoiler candidate.

You can keep trying to selectively ignore parts of this, but it doesnt change anything. I’ll say again - if they wanted to effect real change, they would be going for local, state, and then federal seats in all elections.

But they aren’t. Because Jill Stein is a spoiler candidate and nothing more.

Edit: And they definitely wouldn’t want a threat to democracy to get into office. That right there should be your bit where you realize what she is.

Soooo much nicer.

Working on tweaking a new launcher for my “Kids Version” htpc, with gcompris, a few shortcuts to some really great non-profits with education games, and of course JF. 4th gen Intel dell micro, runs like a dream…