And poor Howard Dean who got castrated for simply getting excited at his own rally…

Barely… many of the same fucking morons and trolls of Reddit have setup shop here, too. It’s not the cesspool that Reddit was, yet, but it’s getting there.

Hmmm… maybe. It would still be easier to just forget the past five minutes without actually closing whatever I have open in the browser. I also still wish I could just tell it to not track closed tabs at all.

It’s mostly from clicking links on Lemmy… sometimes the content isn’t what I would expect or there isn’t enough information to even have an expectation before clicking. After clicking there are sometimes things that pop up that I don’t want in my history. Another common use case is that a new porn site will pop up in the Lemmy feed and I don’t want to see it. In order to block it I have to visit the page. So after I block the page I clear my history.

You’re putting up a false-equivalency. It may well be that a bunch Ukrainian soldiers die and Russia takes over anyway. It might be that they don’t put up a fight and others step in. (Highly unlikely, but not a forgone conclusion.) There are other scenarios that might play out.

On the other hand, either Trump or Harris absolutely will be the next POTUS. Which one do you want it to be? Answer the question this time… no explanations required for your choice. Which one do you choose?

Are you deciding afterwards that you want to forget those pages?

Frequently, yes… There’s also some pages/content on sites where you have to be logged in. Yeah, you could go private and login, but that’s just more steps. I just want to hit a button and have it nuke the last 5 minutes of my browsing without closing my current tabs/browsers.

I’m prepared to risk a Trump presidency

You’re not taking a risk. You are promoting a Trump presidency. If you can’t or won’t accept reality then there is no need to continue this conversation.

I’m telling you the reality that Harris or Trump will be the next POTUS. Which one do you want it to be?

No, I’m using the ‘Forget about some browsing history’ button. You can selectively remove some entries just from history, but that still leaves them in your recent tabs list. If you just want the last 5 minutes of browsing gone then you have to do the rewind and that closes all tabs/instances.

I’m saying that Harris or Trump will be the next POTUS and all you can do right now is express your preference on which one you want it to be.

If you’re driving down the road and you come to a situation where you can either run over a person or hit a telephone pole then you have to decide what to do. You can gripe and moan about your situation and how you don’t want to either one, but that doesn’t change the reality. If you choose to not make a choice then the choice will be made for you and you’ll have to live with the consequences.

You can deny reality all you want, but Harris or Trump is going to be the next POTUS. Which one do you want it to be?

• It’s not super simple to setup multiple, completely separate profiles like it is in Chrome
• I never, ever visit google.com while I do visit gmail.com at least daily. Yet, when I type ‘g’ the suggestion is always google.com
• I visit m.fark.com on my phone quite frequently. Firefox on my phone randomly decides I want to do a google search for ‘m.fark.com’ instead of visit the site
• I don’t want the recently closed tabs to be tracked and listed, yet there is no way to turn that off
• If the menu bar is displayed the the first browser tab is left aligned. If the menu bar is turned off then the first browser tab is indented for no obvious reason.
• I don’t think I can clear my history without it closing all of my Firefox instances and making me reopen everything.

There’s no one thing that is a show-stopper… just little annoyances.

It’s not firefox’s fault, but I still use music.youtube.com and google hangouts and there’s no option to treat them like standalone apps like there is with chrome.

And besides, you’re the one imploring them to just vote without any regard to policy, so what exactly is “getting involved”?

No, I’m saying that at this point in time that the next POTUS is either going to be Harris or Trump. Which of those two do you want it to be? Vote accordingly.

I switched to Firefox about a month ago for personal use. It’s nearly impossible for me to quit using Chrome, though, due to work.

I don’t hate Firefox, but it does absolutely do some stupid shit that I don’t like.

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The evidence is that if they don’t vote for her then they’re going to get Trump

Yes. That’s right. And it’s entirely Harris’s fault. No one else’s. She could change policy and earn their vote. She doesn’t, and so hands the election to Trump.

Oh fuck off with that… They’d rather vote for the fascist who has outright said he’d destroy Hamas? That’s on them for being stupid fucking morons. Don’t blame Harris for their stupidity.

At the general election for POTUS is the wrong fucking time to plant your stake in the ground. Anyone who wants a different candidate in 2028 that supports their views needed to get really involved in 2020, at the latest. The next best time to do that is right now for 2028. I’m not defending Harris. I’m saying the people you’re talking about are fucking morons and need to suddenly get smart.

The evidence is that this group would vote for her if she changed policy on arms sales to Israel.

The evidence is that if they don’t vote for her then they’re going to get Trump who will absolutely destroy Gaza (and the U.S.) If they don’t vote for her or don’t vote at all then they are fucking morons. They will take their moral convictions to their graves.

To do this Harris needs to take away voters from Trump You’ve provided no evidence at all for this, and all the available evidence demonstrates the contrary.

Perhaps you don’t understand how elections work? In this case, either Harris or Trump is going to win. That will be based on which one gets the most votes. Every vote cast that is not for Harris automatically helps Trump. There is really nothing to debate here.

Voters angry at the Democrats for not stopping arms sales to Israel are actively saying they will abstain or vote Trump.

And that makes them fucking stupid because they’d rather put in someone who will definitely destroy Gaza than someone who might not help Gaza as much as they’d like.

No group, poll, or campaign has come out to claim they’ll vote Trump Because there doesn’t need to be a poll to say this. It’s blindingly obvious.

Trump’s voters want Gaza gone. They would be perfectly fine with just dropping a nuke on them an calling it a day. For Harris to come out now to support Gaza over Israel would mean two things. Those who might have been leaning away from Trump for other reasons will have cause to go ahead and vote for him. Harris will lose votes from those who support Israel. Believe it or not, there are plenty of Democrats who also wouldn’t mind if Gaza would just go ahead and die, already. You will have religious zealots who might have otherwise voted for Harris instead vote for Trump.

What kind of fucking moron tells themselves they’re going to vote for Trump because Harris might continue to support Israel? Trump would be far, far worse for Gaza.

Hey mod(s) - why remove my comment?

Just because you’re not following the argument nor participating in the conversation doesn’t mean I’m not making one.

• Trump will be far worse for Gaza than Harris by every possible measure
• For this reason, anyone who cares about Gaza must vote for Harris, no matter how repulsive they might find that choice to be
• Harris must beat Trump
• To do this Harris needs to take away voters from Trump
• Harris coming out against Israel will give voters to Trump, not take them away from Trump
• Harris must not come out against Israel before elected or she won’t get elected

Anyone who cares about Gaza and doesn’t vote for Harris doesn’t actually care about Gaza and are just attention seeking, trolling, and/or fucking stupid.