• melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      what’s the difference between government censorship, and corporate censorship by organs closely tied to the government, and corporate censorship by organs closely tied to the government where certain phrases are randomly declared punishable by death?

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      Yeah, I was shadowbanned twice in a week because Reddit filters are garbage.

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      What does shadow banning typically look like? I would assume you don’t get a notification? How do you find out?

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        you do a thing, but there are no interactions. maybe in only certain contexts. so to you it appears as if you’re engaging, but your posts and sometimes reactions/votes don’t show up except to you.

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          haha. seeing as I don’t usually get much interaction I would never notice.

          switched to lemmy as main platform on my phone a few days ago anyway. when boost for reddit finally was blocked completely. will try to be more active here and hope many other people do the same… there is a good chance with all that’s going on.

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            yeah I probably wouldn’t notice if everyone else in town was replaced by robots tomorrow until I went and tried to feed randos and found they didn’t eat anymore.

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          Hmm. Will try it some time. Sometimes it feels like being shadow-banned… but TBH it’s more likely just not so active communities / mediocre contribution on my part.

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    To be fair, American democracy was replaced with corporate Government a long long time ago.

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    Shut down and delete your data on your US tech accounts. Their business’s are worthless without our accounts.

    It’s a process, start today! With the easy ones and work towards the hard ones.

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    any terminally ill people down to go down in history as a fucking chad with a rifle or a drone?? anyone??

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      We’re all terminally ill on a long enough timeline.

      So… Was that an offer to be our chad?

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        im canadian, i wouldnt want to cause ww3 by assassinating a foreign leader.

        Sorry Americans, this is your mess, you gotta clean it up this time :/

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          cause world war 3

          dude, if a canadian assassinated any american leaders, I’d just think more highly of canadians.

          plus, they’re gonna invade you at some point anyway.

          not that it should be your responsibility. the travel costs alone; oof. there are people who walk by these bastards every day.

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    Everyone needs to GTFO facebook. We can hardly do it because every other HOA and School PTA is there, but we get stop using messenger and stop having personal discussions over there.

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      Don’t accept it when organizations require you to sign up and hand over personal information to private and commercial third parties. Requiring Facebook is an active attempt at curbing participation.

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        Oh they can’t force you. You can always rely on the pta just to send you papers home and backpacks and you don’t really need to talk to your neighbors or have them report problems in a public forum

        There’s enough value for these places that I still go back to Facebook for it, they’re not forcing me. They just make it worth it.

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      Contact those places and ask for an alternative -the less people participate the quieter the discussions the more likely they are to at least try to switch over if they start feeling some pressure.

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        I agree that it needs to happen but contacting these places and asking them for an alternative is a lot like contacting a deep sea tube worm and asking it to learn brain surgery.

        They’re probably capable of moving from one social platform to another, But it’s a lot of work and they’re destroying their network every time so they’re highly resistant.

        If Apple wasn’t such a pain in the ass about notification services We could probably crowdsource NTFY and let everyone use it for schools non-profits and such

        The best we could expect us for them to move to Blue sky. Health in my case half of them just recently moved off Twitter.

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      Yeah, I dumped facebook right after the election but unfortunately most of my friends and family are only on WhatsApp.

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        WhatsApp is a serious problem. There are quite a number of countries that are running a lot of their business through it.

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      I’m reading the Sprawl trilogy along with Shelved By Genre, and Gibson harps on the note that ‘the Ultra Rich aren’t human’, and has some great examples in the books.

      I think he was very observant, and Musk makes it so blatant.

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      Basically. I mean there’s a bit more to it than that but it’s the core idea. It’s also the goal of several tech oligarchs which is why he doesn’t want the peons to be able to talk about it.

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        The term cyberpunk was first used to describe settings such as Snowcrash, i.e. dystopian corporate sci-fi, before it was adopted as a name for the gaming franchise.

        I’m not sure if the person you are replying to was using it as a noun or an adjective, I parsed it is an adjective because it’s more inclusive.

        Anyway… using cyberpunk to refer to the game franchise, would be a disambiguation. This is the article referring to the original usage.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk?wprov=sfla1

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          I was referring to cyberpunk as a genre and theme, I remembered some things after reading this post like shadowrun, cyberpunk ttrpg, Gibson’s books, system shock, etc.

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            Yeah, I just tend to think of that stuff as corporate feudalism. And I learned that concept from playing shadowrun as a kid and then getting into other cyberpunk stuff.

            And yeah, it seems to be the direction we are headed. Elon musk is a fan of blade runner and I don’t think he identifies with the poor people but the rich CEO.

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          Yep, I just want more people to read the book because I like it. Cyberpunk the game rocks, Snowcrash rocks.

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    The real title:

    “Meta rep flagged ‘critiques of tech industry figures’ as ‘sensitive or controversial content’”

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      It’s fascist city states that market themselves as tax free libertarian, likely hedonistic. Tech has little (maybe ultra deregulated healthcare) to do with anything other than billionaires who came from tech get to decide who is allowed in. This is a model in Israel and Arab kingdoms with less hedonism, but high slavery levels.

      The US is definitely on path to collapse. Current administration is accelerating it. Gifting federal lands to become tax havens is setting it to 11.

      Many of these tech bros also talk about an actual solution: Freedom dividends. High tax libertarianism with freedom for all. Power redistribution. Don’t compete for jobs we can’t do as well as China or robots. Or spend on/promote war. Freedom dividends ends crimes and makes fair labour markets. Fascism and slavery as the “libertarian utopian phoenix from ashes of US” is going to be straight mad max fascism and slavery instead of utopia.

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      Tech fascists see America’s democracy and financial system as collapsing.

      That’s because you’re the one breaking it down

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      Let’s not forget how we got here though cause if we do forget & survive this round, won’t be long before it comes back. I’m specifically referring to the pro-genocide candidate that we were all lied to about their cognition until we all saw the emperor had no clothes. Then they anointed the Cheney supporter that couldn’t think of anything she’d do differently.

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          Lol. Capitalism isn’t going away anytime soon. Democrats absolutely could have won if they actually stood for anything other than themselves.

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            Sure, but a big part of why they don’t do better is they want to continue the capitalist hellscape where a few people benefit from “owning” most everything.

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              Because that is the system people are subscribed to. You want big change & to take on capitalism you need a V for Vendetta. The system is built on capitalism. The best chance we’d prob have right now to take on capitalism is someone with a popular agenda that is good at acting, but once elected as President they basically say… Ha, now I’m immune & will use my platform to try to get rid of capitalism. They’d probably get assassinated real quick though. Or a complete collapse of the system.

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                Maybe. We can still try to work on multiple things at the same time.

                Demand more from the Democrats.

                Fight the right wing.

                Push for better systems.

                No one’s going to wave a magic wand and fix everything. though it would be funny to me if more billionaires were murdered , that’s not really likely or safe.

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                It’s called building dual power, and many of us are actually doing things every day to further that goal.

                The best chance we’d prob have right now to take on capitalism is someone with a popular agenda that is good at acting, but once elected as President they basically say… Ha, now I’m immune & will use my platform to try to get rid of capitalism […] Or [cause] a complete collapse of the system.

                Is this sarcastic? Because that’s literally what we’re witnessing. We may have a chance at building a better world with better systems very soon.

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                  Not if the same establishment Democrats get reelected then claim their hands are tied whenever Republicans try their usual antics.

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        pro-genocide candidate

        You realize Trump supports Russia (genocide of Ukrainians and minority ethnicities) and gave Israel the green light to continue on. Right?

        Trump wants to start a war with Canada and Greenland. Right?

        Seems like you fully support genocide. Despite having the audacity to claim otherwise.

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          I don’t support Trump & didn’t vote for him. Why in your mind does criticizing something about Democrats equate to being a Trump supporter? Maybe you should have been more critical of Democrats prior to the election & we wouldn’t be in this mess.

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            Why in your mind does criticizing something about Democrats equate to being a Trump supporter?

            idk calling the Democratic candidate “Pro-Genocide” (They are not, no matter how much you claim they are), while letting the literal pro-genocide candidate off scott free.

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              Look, I much prefer any Democratic administration over a Republican one but it’s ABSOLUTELY correct to say the Democratic Party supports a genocide. They clearly didn’t respect international law nor did they comply with arrest warrants for Netanyahu. They also continued to fund Israel after human rights violation after human rights violation. What is that other than sheer, explicit support of a genocide?

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                They clearly didn’t respect international law nor did they comply with arrest warrants for Netanyahu.

                The US is not a member of the ICC.

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              Lol, you had the Biden “proud Zionist” admin literally vetoing UN resolutions demanding a ceasefire. Instead every answer was “we’ll always stand by Israel & give them money to continue.” Clearly if you believe that isn’t pro genocide then you’re living in a different pretend reality.

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                The Biden admin has been working with Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Palestinian Authority, Qatar, HAMAS, and Israel to actually establish a real ceasefire agreement.

                Biden’s administration has been seeking a resolution that will end the blood shed. Trump’s administration is suggesting and supporting the outright REMOVAL of Palestinians. It’s not hard to see that.

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                  The same Biden administration that helped kill 70k civilians. He got walked around the park by Netanyahu. Democrats & Republicans are both Israel first. The sooner you face reality the sooner Democrats will actually have to do something to earn votes. Look at where we’re at now. Did you make excuses for them to get us here?

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        fair, but Harris would have won without election rigging. Voter suppression and forced provisional ballots that were never counted.

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    Streisand effect: I had never heard of the “network state” until now. Uh, thanks for being such an asshole, Zuck!

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    This man has a bunker and everything. He’s scared shitless and he is ready to hide. Their assets need to be seized and accounts drained

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      That’s not a joke, ALL these dudes have extensive doomsday prep. Secure facilities, staffed and stocked. There’s a ton of reporting on it. They’re gonna fare a LOT better than we are if shit gets really outta hand. Unless we do something about them before it gets to that point, anyway.

      Edit: added a detail

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        If you had billions, wouldn’t you have a prepper facility? Even if there were no global warming or political upheaval, it’s common sense when you have money like that.

        “Hey, want to build a doomsday shelter for .0001% of your net worth?”

        “Meh, why not.”

        They don’t necessarily have to see bad times coming is my point.

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          No? If I ACTUALLY wanted to ride out through some sort of apocalypse, a bunker ain’t gonna cut it. I would bankroll and actively participate in a fully self-sustaining off-the-grid community. Rich people always forget the second part, probably because they are psychopaths. Remember that article where they were asking about putting shock collars on their bunker security guys? If they literally just got beers with them once a week, they’d probably shoot all the migrants you ask them to. It’s an irony that they consider their time ‘too valuable’ for that, as it turns out that the one thing you can’t buy is a sense of community.

          Of course, I would endeavor to not own several billion dollars of stolen property in the first place, but different strokes.

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          I would too, but I would also be worried about the idea of being sealed in. Concrete is cheap. So is welding and thermite.

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          You are correct, but also when you look at the aggregate of their behavior and goals (both stated and implied) you have to reach the conclusion that they WANT to use the bunker. Or want a scenario in which it becomes useful.

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            The scary part is that you might be wrong, they may not even realize they’re causing it and are just stuck in a loop of “number go up”

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              Yeah, I feel like most of them are stuck in ‘number go up’, but I also think that the desire to make your investment ‘worth it’ gets stronger the more money you pour into a bunker system.

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      His bunker on a Hawaiian Island. Dude really wants to be far away from everything when shit pops off.

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        What I’m hearing is that after we overthrow the government and Destroy capitalism we have to dig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial

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          dig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial

          Just weld the door closed. Problem solved.

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          Or, hold a trial, and if convicted, we seal him in his bunker and bury it and cut it off from all outside contact. And depending on the severity of his conviction, plugging up every “air hole” could go along as capital punishment. Give him a very twilight zone ending, he wanted to hide in his bunker, and now he’ll spend the rest of his life in it, however long that may be.

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        Yeah because when I think about kicking off world wars, the last locale on my mind is Hawaii

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        Bunker on a tropical island you say? Don’t worry, I know of some people that have some notes on that. Any secrets he has about that thing are practically out by now.

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          This is either a shit post or I’m looking at something glowing radioactive hot and I can’t tell which.

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      The native Hawaiians should reclaim their land he stole so he doesn’t have a bunker anymore