(Disclaimer: I voted against Trump and anyone who supported him in my state.)

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    Trump was pretty ineffective in his first term, largely because he did a terrible job of supporting people who really agreed with his agenda, and an even worse job of removing people from influential positions who didn’t.

    He said during his campaign that he knew much better who to trust, but now he’s got Elon Musk and RFK Jr. prominently featured. I don’t think he has learned anything, and I think he will be just as ineffective this time.

    It’s possible that some of the Republicans in Congress will support more of his agenda, but even there if they have to overcome the filibuster, I don’t think mass deportation, a federal abortion ban, or most of the rest of the potential worst of it is in the cards.

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    depends on how much of his immunity he chooses to exercise. also be intrtesting to see how many of the new repuglicans fall into line with his shit policy

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    I’m more scared of the JD Vance than Trump. He’s much worse

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      I’m worried about this too. It wouldn’t be surprising if Trump dies in the next four years. Vance is not qualified for the job. He’s smarter than Trump though so scheming would be much worse.

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        Vance himself is irrelevant, the problem is he’s an errand boy for the would-be technocracy.

        The world is on the precipice of an unbreakable tyranny, and he wants to give the keys of power to the ones making the drone armies.

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          This is why I’ve argued that technology, in terms of actual benefit for people, peaked many years ago. I won’t try to pinpoint a date, but we have past peak technology from this perspective.

          After that peak, advancements in technology have mostly just served as means to control the population or extract more from us (see enshittification) and have not been of benefit to the average person.

          Technology allows for actual hard power to be concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer. I don’t mean like a dictator with an army behind them, but a dictator and small group with enough tech to control everything. You are right, and it’s extremely concerning.

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    The world is fucked. A climate change denier was elected to one of the most influential countries and we’re already past mitigating some of the worst effects. There is no coming back.

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    Weirdly, it depends on how honest Trump is.

    If he forgets about everything he talked at any part of the campaign, and just decide to maximize his tranquility during his term, not as bad as if he decides to keep his promises.

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      I’m hoping he just focuses on enriching himself. Clearing his convictions and then lining his pockets with more NFTs and corruption. That’ll keep him sufficiently occupied to not fuck too much with the lives of everyday people.

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    Well, they want to dismantle a lot of the stuff that protects the middle and working classes. The country will be fine. The people will suffer. Democracy? Judgement is reserved. If he follows through on his idea of a third term without a legitimate amendment to the Constitution then it’s very very dead. But we won’t know that for years.

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    We’re going to have a great 4 years. The first 2 will be amazing if we actually get a super majority.

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      The first year will be him living off Bidens reduction of inflation. EVERY policy Trump has discussed increases prices. So we will have hyper inflation.

      Name One policy he has discussed that will cut costs in his 4 years please.

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    We’ll be fine. Yes shit will be fucked up but democracy will not die. We’ll try again in 2028 and thankfully Trump is capped out after this. Maybe midterms will show some shift

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      trump just barely failed to steal it last time, this time he has the fucking supervillain crackpot team behind him.

      If he wants to do it, all he has to do is make the call.

      He has the executive, he has the house, he has the senate, he will most likely completely have the supreme court, there is literally nobody to tell him no anymore.

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      I took this attitude the first time Trump was elected, and boy was I wrong. Not this time. Now, I’m seriously considering what his options might be for eliminating the election in 2028. He needs to clean the military brass of people disloyal to him, which he can easily do as Commander in Chief. Once he’s got a loyal military, there’s virtually nothing he can’t do; and this SCOTUS will let him do anything he wants, so long as it aligns with the view of Evangelical Christians, who have been wanting a theocracy for decades. He can conjure the specter of “Democrat corruption” to justify eliminating any opposition politicians as an official act, completely re-stock the FBI with loyalists to wage any legal battles he needs to make his actions seem legitimate and “official,” and arrest any problematic judges under the same “corruption” myth so that he can then replace them with loyalists.

      Honestly, we’ve seen this playbook before in countries that are now dictatorships and Trump has already made it quite clear he wants to be a dictator. There is absolutely no reason to be convinced this will not happen. It might not happen, but there’s no reason to think definitely will not.

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        Yes. Yes there will be. Even if everyone who voted for Trump is OK with it if you think the rest of America is just going to be ok with dismantling elections you’re being irrational.

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          This has happened plenty of times in other countries. To think it can’t happen here is what is irrational.

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            I don’t think any country in the world has been in the position America is in. Similar sure, but not the bastion of wealth and power, with a stubborn population. There would be a civil war before they remove democracy. It’s more likely that elections will be a front to the fascist seats of power. The elections aren’t going away. What they mean is a different story.

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      Naive.

      Edit: I’m guessing you’re a straight with male with no children or family who are lgbtq.

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        That’s right, bringing race, gender, and other demographic variables into it totally makes your argument stronger. It definitely doesn’t expose your own prejudices at all, no siree.

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        Only part you got right is a straight male.

        You are the naive one to think 1 moron can destroy America. Trump can not be a moron and a master manipulator at the same time. The reality is he is too stupid to break anything beyond what can’t be fixed. We will have to rebuild in 2028. Yes there will be hardships but nothing we can’t fix. The only thing he fumbled hard with was the COVID response. So here’s hoping we don’t have another pandemic

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          This is such a dumb take. Just the fact you didnt mention something as clear as Ukraine’s genocide shows you have no idea what a corrupt idiot can do. He will be manipulated and it’s going to cause irreparable damage to society.

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              Exactly my point. You didn’t think about Ukraine, so of course you aren’t thinking of what this is going to do to the US when other countries abandon their deals too, and Trump retaliates/ sues.

              Youre in for a wild economic ride. I guess americans not understanding this is why he got elected. In a way you deserve this.

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                Based on your comment you aren’t even American so you can shut up now. Only an idiot would answer a question about the US with “Well Ukraine blah blah blah”.

                I didn’t mention Ukraine because the question had nothing to do with Ukraine. It’s not that deep. If you’re asking me how fucked is Ukraine, then yes they’re fucked. Sorry. I did my part and im not gonna let morons like you guilt trip me into beating myself up over it. I am along for the ride like everyone else.

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                  People give zero shits who you have as a president and what discrimination you guys support. This election affects everyone, like it did last time.

                  If you think US foreign policy doesn’t affect the US itself, nobody can help you.

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          What you’re missing here is that he has an openly corrupt supreme court behind him and everyone who was willing to tell him no is long gone. We’ll see how it plays out but it’s going to be hard to come back from this, and the Democrats are going to have to start paying attention and actually doing what voters want or there’s no hope for them.

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            I’m not missing anything. He didn’t destroy the country last time so I’m confident we will survive. Enough with the doom and gloom. We need to unite and be positive if we want to see any kind of change. It’s not time to give up

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          This is my thoughts as well. He is a really good bullshitter but isn’t able to get anything of substance done (for the most part). As long as the Republicans don’t get super majority, they won’t be able to do to much damage. My biggest fear is him getting more supreme court picks. I believe that’s going to cause the most lasting problems for our country.

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    Let’s be real we are fucked no matter who the president is. With or without him the world is headed down the toilet.

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      We must come to the realization that America is deeply racist and sexist, incapable of electing a Black, Asian woman to its highest office because of our culture’s innate, widespread, and unreconciled bias and hatred.

      If that’s true, then why on earth would the DNC do everything in their power to ensure that was the only “choice” available to voters? Do they like losing?

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        Objectively, the standards applied to the two candidates is wildly different, I’m not sure why we blame anyone other than voters, at this point.

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    Let me put it this way: we will see the true beginning of WW3 in the Baltics. Trump will predictably not act upon that and the response will be 100% up to Europe itself.

    That response better be an armed one, and quick too, or we all better start practicing cyrillic here in W-europe.

    Regardless if we are lucky, “only” tens of thousands will die. More likely it will be millions.

    So yeah, Trump kinda bedazzled us there, no way around it. Won’t be until the people who voted him in will start hurting personally that they’ll finally realize they’ve been conned. But too little too late.

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        Germany’s fatal mistake in WW2 was not being America instead.

        Who, exactly, is to take its place along with the British Empire and USSR in holding back fascism?

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      Won’t be until the people who voted him in will start hurting personally that they’ll finally realize they’ve been conned. But too little too late.

      Cute that you think they won’t just blame Mexicans when they do start hurting.